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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x extender moon shot |
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SonicScot wrote:
So I took a shot of last night's moon with my maximum reach set-up, the monster Rubinar 1000mm f10 mirror with the 2x matched extender.
This is just to show how the moon almost fills the a7 full frame sensor. (zero cropping on either image)
I switched to crop sensor mode, at one point, and the moon overlapped the frame
Rubinar 1000mm f10 + 2x matched extender by Gary Sutherland, on Flickr
For comparison, here's the Rubinar without the extender:
Rubinar 1000mm f10 by Gary Sutherland, on Flickr
I found it to be extremely difficult to focus, particularly without the benefit of in-body stabilisation. At this level of reach, the lens isn't very sharp, it's still impressive for a rusty old mirror lens. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16656 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:35 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
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Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
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Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3245 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Gary, upload 100% crop please.
I'd like to see same details. Like the flag left by Armstrong over there
Joke aside, I'd like to see some 100% crops. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Gary, upload 100% crop please.
I'd like to see same details. Like the flag left by Armstrong over there
Joke aside, I'd like to see some 100% crops. |
I'll do so when I get back home, you'll be disappointed though. I wasn't able to capture a single sharp image 😞 _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Great Gary,whenever a moon shot is wanted I seem to always have overcast sky in Calgary.. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Basilisk
Joined: 21 Mar 2013 Posts: 356 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Basilisk wrote:
At these magnifications, you can almost see the moon move. By the time you clamp the camera down really tight, the moon is heading out of shot! |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Basilisk wrote: |
At these magnifications, you can almost see the moon move. By the time you clamp the camera down really tight, the moon is heading out of shot! |
That was part of the problem for me. Fixing the moon in the left of the frame, focus after zooming in, take a shot and it's leaving the right of the frame. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Gary, upload 100% crop please.
I'd like to see same details. Like the flag left by Armstrong over there
Joke aside, I'd like to see some 100% crops. |
Full-size jpeg:
#1
_________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2966 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
_________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 921 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
That definitely looks better full size! |
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devinw
Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Posts: 207 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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devinw wrote:
Very cool. Focus/detail resolution is not outstanding, but pretty awesome to get almost the full on on a FF sensor! _________________
Camera: Sony a6300
E-Mount: Zeiss/Sony 16-70 f/4, Samyang 12mm f/2
Rokkor: MD PG 50mm f1.4, MD 100mm Macro f3.5, MD 135mm f2.8, MD Zoom 35-70mm f3.5, MD Zoom 75-150 f4
Canon FD: nFD 50mm f1.4, Tokina AT-X 100-300mm f4
My Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/westonde/
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
Very well done, I tried to use this lens at the last full moon on and A7 II, with a TC and I just could not focus on the moon. _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
Very nice, even though this Rubinar lens has good reputation, this result is still a bit better than I can expect.
Interestingly, I did the same shot on the second day of the super moon with FD 300mm f/2.8L on E-M5ii, which is equal to 600mm on full frame camera, and I cropped the photo to the same size as yours to see the difference. It seems regardless of the disadvantage of focal length, the shot is a bit sharper. It looks better when I sharpened the RAW image in CameraRaw but it also produced more artifacts so I set both sharpen and noise reduction to zero.
PS: Simon, I don't know you're here already, welcome to MFlenses community! _________________
Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:56 am Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
Langstrum wrote: |
Very nice, even though this Rubinar lens has good reputation, this result is still a bit better than I can expect.
Interestingly, I did the same shot on the second day of the super moon with FD 300mm f/2.8L on E-M5ii, which is equal to 600mm on full frame camera, and I cropped the photo to the same size as yours to see the difference. It seems regardless of the disadvantage of focal length, the shot is a bit sharper. It looks better when I sharpened the RAW image in CameraRaw but it also produced more artifacts so I set both sharpen and noise reduction to zero.
PS: Simon, I don't know you're here already, welcome to MFlenses community! |
Thank you Le Minh!
I've been a member for a while, but the forum format has not suited me as much as the Photography With Classic Lenses group on Facebook does. I've taken loads of great information from this forum via Google searches and I've decided that I should start giving something back! _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
The Classic Lenses Podcast https://www.classiclensespodcast.com/
My eBay Shop http://stores.ebay.co.uk/itsfozzy-Photography
Large Format Photography Podcast
https://largeformatphotographypodcast.podbean.com/
My Flickr Albums (more than 150 lens sample shots) https://www.flickr.com/photos/125323761@N07/albums
https://www.facebook.com/SimonForsterPhotographic/
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:21 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I had another go at shooting the moon today, again with the monster Rubinar 1000/10.
Shot using crop mode on the Sony a7, NFC'd to my Nexus 6P and slightly edited in Snapseed.
#1
Much better than shooting a full moon. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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