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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
I bought a Singapore-made Rollei 50mm f1.8 Planar HFT for about £20 from a Camera shop. At the time I was primarily concerned with finding a sharper 50mm lens, as I already owned several. In a direct head to head comparison between the Pentacon 50mm f1.8, Minolta Rokkor 58mm f1.4 and the Rollei I could detect no difference whatsover in sharpness...So I took the Rollei back and got my money back. The Pentacon remains one of the best lenses one can buy for the money...I paid just £3 for mine, including the postage!
Only my CZ 50mm f1.7 Planar T* and Canon FL 55mm f1.2 are noticably sharper. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hmm, I have several copies of the Pentacon and a Meyer Oreston 1.8/50 too, and I too consider it a wonderful lens, it's why I never bought a Pancolar - I think the Pentacon/Meyer is just as good and I love the colours and bokeh it has so much.
Not really sure why I bought this Planar. I will use it and if it doesn't offer me anything my other 50s already offer I can always sell it, sure to be some buyers.
I am actually more excited to test my Miranda 1.4/50 I just acquired for 18ukp and my Miranda 1.9/50 I got for a fiver, I need to clean the blades on the 1.9, aperture is slower than slow but otherwise it's near-mint.
Now I have a lot of 50s it's time to rationalise methinks and sell on the ones I don't need. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I had several copies of the pentacon MC and the Pancolar (red, white MC, short or large barrel, warm or cold reflections, etc) and I can say that the Pancolar has more resolution power and more contrast than the pentacon MC.
But the Pentacon has a nice IQ, very sweet lens. And is very easy to dessamble and fix almost anythin that should go wrong inside.
Now I'm folling in love with my rokkor PF 1,7/50. But not matter which lens be my first option, the pentacon is my second lens (like a wife? Noooooooo. )
Rino _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Doesn't surprise me the Pancolar has more resolution and contrast, the weakness of the Pentacon is it's contrast, a little on the low side, proabably due to coating. However, I find this is very easily fixed and it performs great on digital, on film, I would like more contrast so I bet the Pancolar is the clear winner on film. There is just something about the look of the images from the Pentacon I like, for want of a better word I would call it 'vintage'. I find my Pentacon versions are warmer than my Meyer Oreston.
Other lens I really love is my Petri 1.8/55, it renders a lot like a Pancolar and is razor sharp, even wide open. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I had Pancolar MC is better than Pentacon for overall performance.
I compared planar 50/1,8 & zenitar 50/1,7... here
adapter Rollei-EOS on market usually won't reach infinity. the lens need adjustment. unscrew the screws, and focus until get infinity. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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hugomf
Joined: 31 Oct 2014 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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hugomf wrote:
My Rollei 50 1.8 is an absolute beast of a lens. At 1.8 the lens is acceptably sharp, but once you stop down to just f2 the lens becomes so sharp, the amount of detail this lens resolves is fantastic, and @ 2.8 i'd say the difference isn't very noticeable but becomes even sharper. So this is a f2/2.8 lens, at least i use it on those apertures the most. There is come purple fringing at f2, but nothing major, just a tiny bit when there is very high contrast edges, this is the same as the Zeiss 50 1.7.
I'd say both lenses have the same IQ, the build quality of the Rollei is all metal and overall sturdier. The Zeiss is sharp wide open, but it performs the best also at f2.8. Zeiss has smoother focus ring, both C/Y and QBM mounts are very easy to adapt to digital, there are plenty of cheap adapters around. Both deliver high contrast, flare resistance, and beautiful colors.
This Rollei is a gem! Almost everytime the Rollei's fall behind compared to their Zeiss counterparts, but this 50mm is not the case, it's just as good as the Zeiss 50mm 1.7. But the difference is that it's cheaper. So it's your call, bear in mind that you are fundamentally paying more for having "Zeiss" written on the front ring. |
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Vykingboy
Joined: 02 Jul 2018 Posts: 1 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Vykingboy wrote:
I just wanted to thank all of you for the wisdom you have shared, very sorry to revive an old thread, but this is where it made the most sense- as my first legacy lens was the 1972 Version of the Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm 1.8, and a Singapore “Made By Rollei Planar, two Tele-Tessars, and a Schneider Kreuznach Xenon 50mm 1.8 much more alligned to the optical design of the Planar scheme. Along with several Rolleinar SLR Lenses made by Mamiya(Primes) and Tokina(Zooms).
Shot on a SL35M(Lol, I know it’s hated with passion- but mine has been a workhorse), and a NEX 5N(with various adaptors/ext tubes/B+W Color Filters).
Of Coarse the German (Made and Designed) Glass is closest to my heart. But I so love all things Rollei! Next, I will follow the advice of advisors who had no idea how much they’ve impacted my life over the last year- as I have just joined, and the main reason I did- and to post was to give great gratitude and endless respect in no particular order to Iangreenhalgh, Orio, Estudleon, and Attila. Thanks to the many more who added my understanding of optical schemes, and navigating the Carl Zeiss Sonnar, Planar, Distagon, (Tele) & Tessar and Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar, Pancolar, and Flektagon. The Pancolar and Flektagon I am yet to try/own.
You have guided me through the discovery of these wonderful Rollei Zeiss Lenses, that have brought me joy and pleasure untold. Their ability to shine is untold far beyond my amatuer skill or scant talent will ever mature from them.
Thanks so much for your guidance, opinions, wisdom, sharing of your work, and support you so willingly offer of your time and experience with these heirlooms that I can’t wait to see the next generation pick up with the same awe, passion, and curiousity as you guys have nurtured in me.
We really don’t know the impact of our daily interactions, and I can just pray the good you send out multiplies back to you guys. Thanks. A. Million. -From a struggling-wannabee-amatuer-photography student. _________________ “To Me: Photography is the SCIENCE of Light Capture, and the ART of stopping time- and the MAGIC of it all.â€
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
I did some research and found out that the Rollei branded made in Germany are Zeiss and the better to get. That's what I got. |
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