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maldaye
Joined: 19 Jun 2013 Posts: 316
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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maldaye wrote:
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Well nothing really is necessary, in principle one can do just fine with 3 lenses Bokina and and fast 85mm are different beasts. Bokina is big and heavy and at least 1 stop slower than any 85, it's a great lens for macros and close-ups. For people fotography fast 85mm is more versatile, not to mention that you already have a great slower option in 105mm f2.5 Nikkor. |
So are you suggesting, I should push this toward the bottom of the list and get the Bokina instead? |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
No what I am saying is that Bokina and fast 85mm are really different type of lenses. You should get first what excites you more You already have 105mm Nikkor macro, Bokina is the same type of lens so it's a bit redundant in your kit, but it's an iconic lens, so nothing's wrong with chasing one _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I guess if I were in your position, that is, already invested in a Nikon system, I would concentrate on some of the better MF Nikkors and also aftermarket MF lenses, such as the Tamron SP, Tokina AT-X, and Vivitar Series 1.
One lens that wasn't mentioned I don't think, and that would be a nice addition, especially if you go with a D800 or other FF Nikon, is a 17mm -- either the Tokina (or Tokina-made Vivitar) or Tamron. Most folks here seem to prefer the Tokina over the Tamron. If you have a 17mm, you won't need a 20mm. However, I personally like the Pre-AI 20mm f/3.5 U-D Nikkor and would be tempted to add it to my kit, just because.
Also, even though it would probably exceed your $300 budget ceiling, I'd recommend that you consider a fast telephoto, such as the Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED. The Tamron 80-200mm f/2.8 LD is actually a very good equivalent to the Nikkor 180. You might want to also consider a fast 300mm. Those get pricey, but occasionally I see the Tamron 300/2.8 LD go for reasonable prices on eBay. I bought one for $500 a couple years ago. It is fairly worn cosmetically, but the optics are perfect. And getting the compression plus blown-out bokeh with a 300mm wide open at f/2.8 is just downright cool. Plus, with an APS-C Nikon, you're getting a 450mm equivalent. At f/2.8.
Yes, the Nikkor 50/2 is a wonderful lens, but if you already have a 50/1.8, you really don't need the f/2. The difference in sharpness between the two is probably miniscule. But as another member stated, it's so cheap, so why not?
You mentioned the "Bokina" for a macro lens. It's an incredible lens, true, but the word is out. Whenever I see one for sale on eBay it gets bid up out of sight. And I question just how much sharper than other macros it is. A while back, I tested a few macro lenses: the "legendary" Vivitar S1 105mm f/2.5, a Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5, and an old Pre-AI Nikkor 55mm f/3.5. All three of these lenses did an excellent job, but the Tamron was the consistent winner, and even the old Nikkor edged out the "legendary" Vivitar in most comparisons. That Tamron 90mm is so sharp, and so well corrected optically, I just don't see how or why a person would need anything sharper. And it can often be found on eBay for quite a bit less than the Bokina.
You mentioned the possibility of also buying a film camera. Do you have any in mind? Here you have a wide variety of choices, many of which will provide you with an excellent film platform. The compact Nikons, such as the FE, FE2, FM, FM2 -- even the FG -- they are all great cameras. If you prefer something more robust, there are the Nikkormats, which can often be had for a song. If you prefer a camera as sturdy as a Nikkormat, but with more flexibility, that is, more of a system camera, then I'd recommend you consider an F2 or F3. The F2 is a manual mechanical masterpiece and can be had with a variety of metered finders. The F3 is an elegant design, works very well in its Aperture-priority mode, and can these days often be found for less money than the F2. Me, I've chosen not to choose. I own an FE, two F2s and an F3. And I plan to buy an F4 one day soon. Why? Because F4s are cheap, cheap, cheap! There are a few on eBay right now for less than $200. _________________ Michael
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 497 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
I have Tamron 90mm in Nikon F-mount (52BB) and can vouch that it is very sharp lens. Also I have Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm lens (1st version - Nikon mount) and is also an excellent lens. Very good performer on Nikon body as well as M4/3.
IMHO a must have if you have Nikon digital body.
YMMV!
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maldaye
Joined: 19 Jun 2013 Posts: 316
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: |
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maldaye wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
You mentioned the possibility of also buying a film camera. Do you have any in mind? Here you have a wide variety of choices, many of which will provide you with an excellent film platform. The compact Nikons, such as the FE, FE2, FM, FM2 -- even the FG -- they are all great cameras. If you prefer something more robust, there are the Nikkormats, which can often be had for a song. If you prefer a camera as sturdy as a Nikkormat, but with more flexibility, that is, more of a system camera, then I'd recommend you consider an F2 or F3. The F2 is a manual mechanical masterpiece and can be had with a variety of metered finders. The F3 is an elegant design, works very well in its Aperture-priority mode, and can these days often be found for less money than the F2. Me, I've chosen not to choose. I own an FE, two F2s and an F3. And I plan to buy an F4 one day soon. Why? Because F4s are cheap, cheap, cheap! There are a few on eBay right now for less than $200. |
I was dithering about the point of owning a film camera in the age of digital. However, I did end up buying one today. I bought one instead of buying new lenses. I bought the F3 with double M Industries pin-registered back. It was only $100. The auction said: " The stock Nikon F3 body was modified by Double M Industries to enable accurate sequential images that are pin registered to one another. I used the body to create images for multi-media slide show productons in the mid-1980s. Pin-registration allows multiple images to be overlayed with precision for post developed effects. Load the film, engage the pins, expose, disengage pins and advance film. The view finder screen also has been modified to accurately show the frame lines of a full 35mm frame. The pin-registered back is interchangeable with a traditional back. The camera will ship with a traditional back and the camera is ready to go." I don't know enough about this to measure whether I got a good deal or not, but I didn't see anything else similar listed, so I grabbed it. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Trust me, you got a good deal. A clean F3 for $100 is a good deal just by itself. But the pin-registered back was an expensive option. Back in the heyday of film, such an option would have added a few hundred bucks to the camera's price.
Now it's time to think about an MD-4 for your F3. They can be picked up for cheap nowadays. I've seen them go for as little as $40 on eBay. _________________ Michael
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