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dof
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 Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: recent find: Voigtlander RF |
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dof wrote:
I found this little beauty at an estate sale a few weeks ago for about $20.
Near mint condition. At first the slow speeds were a bit sticky but a little
wiping of the blades with naptha cured that and the shutter has remained
in good working order since then.
The Vitomatic IIa has a nice rangefinder, a selenium meter with readout
visible on top and in viewfinder and shutter speeds to 1/500. Shutter
and aperture can be manually set despite the "-matic" in the name.
This one has the 2.8 Color-Skopar lens. Voigtlander also offered an option
of an f/2 Ultron lens (hard to find and pricey). Would love to find one.
This little camera weighs about 1.75 lbs which helps keep it steady when
shooting. It also has the shutter release button on top which I prefer.
Some models in this series have a sliding release on the front which
I find makes it more difficult to hold steady during release.
There were 3 body versions of this model that I know of. This is the 2nd
version. The first had a shutter to 1/300 and the 3rd had no strap lugs.
Otherwise they were the same as far as I know.
The camera is also finished beautifully, like a piece of jewelry.  |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
So nice!
Have fun shooting with it.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: Vitomatic IIa |
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scsambrook wrote:
You have a little gem there - and for $20 - ! Did you get the case as well?
One of the nice little design points in that you can "inch" the wind-on lever, rather than using one long stroke. Handy for eye level shooting.
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Nesster
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Those are so cute and heavy
I bought two but neither works... something with the sprocket wheel / shutter linkage. I did manage to get one working but it stopped after three frames 
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dof
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
Yes, I did get a case with it. 
RE: the shutter and film advance
With this model the shutter release seems to have 2 stages to it.
First, the shutter fires and then pressing the release further unlocks the
advance mechanism so the film can be advanced to the next frame. If
your camera has advance trouble, that 2nd stage may be the problem.
That is, something is preventing the button from going down far enough
to release the advance lock. If so, this may be fairly simple to fix (in case
that might be of any help) |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I used a voigtlander vitomatic like yours.
And with the skopar 2,8/50 too.
Very nice cam, little mechanical cam.
Skopar IQ? Near so-so at F2,8. Excelent from F/8 to 16. F/11-16 the favorite for me.
Congratulations!!!
Very good pics with her. Rino.
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Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
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Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Oh, a beauty.
This color skopar is a very nice lens.
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mflex-on wrote:
I have them too, 2.8 Skopar and 2.0 Ultron. A very good camera with a viewfinder that is wonderful bright and big. The color-skopar lens features best value for money. Resolution at ƒ/5.6 ist very good.
The Ultron has just arrived can’t wait to see the first pictures .--
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dof
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dof wrote:
Yes, I'd love to see how the Ultron performs. |
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Banjo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: Re: recent find: Voigtlander RF |
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Banjo wrote:
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The Vitomatic IIa has a nice rangefinder, a selenium meter with readout
visible on top and in viewfinder and shutter speeds to 1/500. Shutter
and aperture can be manually set despite the "-matic" in the name. |
Well, I have one too!
It is one of my favourite cameras.
The metering is excellent (and no batteries required). What is more, by attaching a little piece of translucent material (supplied with the camera) to the two pegs on the light meter (slips on like lego), the meter becomes an "incident" lightmeter. (This little item is stored inside the upper lid of the camera case, held in place by some elastic...if its still there)
The sharpness and colour rendition of the lens is amazing -even if used in a zone-focusing mode, which is what I do (hyperfocal distance focusing).
Great fun and loads of personality.
BTW the lid of a Fujicolour canister makes a great lens-cap. |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Congrats, dof, now light that candle!  |
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mflex-on
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
First film is developed - this little camera is a real gem. Get it!
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Attila wrote:
 Excellent indeed!
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Nesster wrote:
Very superior, these little things are powerful machines. Love that second shot, the transitions and tones are so delicious.
<--- by the way that is me in the vf of the Vitomatic
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dof
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
Yes, very nice pics. Thanks for posting!
That's the Ultron lens, I presume. Would love to find one with that lens.
They go for $300+ on eBay which is too high for me. I will have to wait
until I find one elsewhere. |
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mflex-on
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
Yes, the b/w picts come from the Ultron version.
Got mine for 63 EUR on fleabay. Be patient and you will be happy
Nevertheless the 2.8/50 Skopar version is good too! |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Congratulation for your voigtlander cams and lenses.
In the first pic with ultron, you can see the characteristic bokeh of voigtlander lenses.
In the RF and in the SRL lenses, the same style of bokeh. At the tree's folies I can see the Ultron, skopar and super-dinarex bokeh. Fantastic, isn' it?
Somewhere I have one Vito CLR with the skupoar X lens with fungus. I will try to clear it and use again.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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dof
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
Yes, I particularly like the bokeh in the café scene -- the couple in the upper
right corner, etc. |
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mflex-on
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: Vitomatic with Ultron |
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mflex-on wrote:
two more examples. one is out of focus - sorry - but you can see the bokeh, second is focussed on the eye, bokeh nice too.
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