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kretzsche
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 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: Questions about Prakticar 2.8 200mm M42 |
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kretzsche wrote:
Hello,
my Name ist Uwe from Germany and i use many old Lenses on my Sony alpha 100
180mm 2.8 Sonnar MC full black Carl Zeiss Jena
200mm 2.8 Prakticar electric ???
135mm 2.8 Orestor Meyer-Optik Görlitz
29mm 2.8 Orestegon Meyer-Optik Görlitz
50mm 2.8 Domiplan Meyer-Optik Görlitz
I search all Infos about the 200mm Lens, but i found noting on the Net.
tech Facts:
"PRAKTICAR ELECTRIC 1:2.8 f=200mm LENS MADE IN JAPAN" Seriennummer 73100724
Filterdurchmesser 72mm
Blende 2.8 bis 22
Anfangsentfernung 2,5m.
cu Uwe
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice to see you here UWE!
I have a 24mm f2.8 Prakticar lens I have also not any information from that I guess made by Sigma. Perhaps yours too.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
I didn't know that that lens were made witj M42 mount (the Prakticar brand was mostly used for the bayonet lenses) but only B bayonet (and that too is very rare): http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/blenses/czjp2.8_200.html
http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/200mmf28
In M42 there is the CZJ Sonnar 200mm f:2.8 : http://m42.artlimited.net/lens_detail.php?lid=48
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
I make more Pictures from the 200mm Lens.
cu Uwe |
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Richard_D
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Uwe - welcome to the forum!
Is it this one:
http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/200mmf28
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/lensgallery/german/prakticar/prakticar_200mm_f2_8.jpg.html
?
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Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome Uwe
have a nice time here
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
No, this is a 200mm Prakticar from Carl Zeiss Jena (East-Germany), but my Lens is Made in Japan and a "electric" with 3 Pins for forwarding the Aperture-Data to the Camera.
The second from left, this is my 200mm Lens.
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Nelson
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Nelson wrote:
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No, this is a 200mm Prakticar from Carl Zeiss Jena (East-Germany), but my Lens is Made in Japan and a "electric" with 3 Pins for forwarding the Aperture-Data to the Camera. |
Isn't it a B mount lens ?
I feel like i recently saw a 200mm f2.8 prakticar somewhere on ebay
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230209307033
Here is the Link. Its a M42 Lens, i buy it fom this auction.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
To make it clear:
Carl Zeiss Jena and Pentacon made Prakticar lenses with Praktica-B bajonet mount. These lenses made in DDR and some of them made in Japan.
What we talk about now, PRAKTICAR labeled lenses with M42 mount made in Japan and not related at all to East-Germany! Like Exakta (Japanese lenses) are not related to Exakta cameras and Japanese Helios not related to Russian lenses.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Well, seeing the lens from that ebay auction it might be in fat a rebranded Sigma YS lens (YS line lenses). I just suppose so because the font, the mount meterial, and the barell design looks similar with this 100mm Sigma: http://photo.net/bboard-uploads/00JK59-34189984.jpg
There was another line too of Sigma lenses, called XQ.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I guess the same.
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
Okay, its a Sigma... I hope its a good Lens. Thanks to all!
cu Uwe
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am sure not same than genuine CZJ 200mm f2.8 look the postive side , lot more rare this is first one what I ever seen.
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patrickh
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Welcome Uwe. You will find a lot of really well informed people on this forum. Look forward to your contributions - how about samples from the Practicar?
patrickh
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
I hope the weather is clear on this weekend and i can make many fotos with my new Lenses (200mm and 180mm).
cu Uwe
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I look forward your reports!
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
Iso 400
Aperture 11
Program A
W-B: auto
cu Uwe
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No good news this is a $10 quality lens  sorry to say this. I also bought a 24mm lens from this series... and not tested yet.
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
Here more test-pictures, direct out of the Cam.
@Attila: Wat's your Info-Source, only my pics? i am a Newbie with my Cam!
cu Uwe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sure, your pics only I never seen any other copy from this lens.Try to make pictures from same subject with CZJ 180m f2.8 you will see big difference.
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kretzsche
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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kretzsche wrote:
 Hmmm, i think the 200mm MF-Lens is not so bad. The Kit-Zoom-Lens SAL75300 is a more badly. Are there more opinions?
cu Uwe
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
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Hmmm, i think the 200mm MF-Lens is not so bad. The Kit-Zoom-Lens SAL75300 is a more badly. Are there more opinions?
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I think I agree with Atilla, Uwe. Let's see some pics with the 180 Sonnar.
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Jesito wrote:
Welcome Uwe!
Enjoy your stay here!
Jes.
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Richard_D
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Uwe - It's far from awful - there's no obvious pincushion distortion and fringeing is relatively minor, but is apparant. It doesn't seem to resolve much detail and lacks contrast. Looking at the full size shots it doesn't look like camera shake is the problem, it looks like it's the lens. It's just not that sharp and doesnt have stunning out of focus rendering to make up for it.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
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