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Mir
 Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 990 Location: Montreal, Canada
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 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm Post subject: Preparing a Minolta AF group sale |
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 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm Post subject: Preparing a Minolta AF group sale |
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Mir wrote:
I've seldom had success selling or even giving stuff on this here forum ....
So i'm just gonna do a brief survey ....
I want to sell these Minolta AF lenses as a group, i'll add a boxed Sony LA-EA4 adapter and a 4000AF flash to the mix....
I'd be looking for $3300 USD
Tell me what you think ......
 _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 5303 Location: Switzerland
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stevemark wrote:
I'm not active on e-Bay, so don't expect any knowledge and advice concerning e-Bay!
However, from my experience here in Switzerland, it's much better to sell the items separately, especially if they a expensive ones.
That said, I got my 100-200mm for CHF 20.--, the last AF 1.4/50 for <100.--, the last AF 2.8/20mm for <100.-- as well, and my last AF 2/100mm for CHF 128.--. I never got an AF 1.4/35 though ... My last AF 2/35mm however was about CHF 60.--.
All lenses mentioned above in very good / like new condition!
S
EDIT To give you an example: Some years ago I bought a like new Canon "New F-1" plus 1.4/50, 1.8/85, 2/135mm and 4/70-210mm for about CHF 450.--. The seller refused to sell the stuff separately, and for quite some time nobody was interested in the set. Finally, after maybe 2 months or so, I bought it. That's a lot of nice stuff for <500 USD! _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
I wouldn't go back to selling on eBay, but i do look at "sold prices" off of eBay ...
I'll sell them locally
it doesn't matter if they sell separately .... but like you said, it's probably a better deal
for a buyer to get the bundle ....
Thanks for time ...
Edit :
those thrift store prices look good, but not everyone gets lucky at flea markets ....
So that AF 1.4/35 sells on average @ 2040 CHF on eBay ...... which is, in effect, a good place to start when one wants data on selling prices .....
But you're right, on a good day < $500 USD may get you a lot of nice stuff.... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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Lucse
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Lucse wrote:
I can confirm what "stevemark" is saying. Prices for Minolta AF-lenses have dropped enormously. The prices that he quotes are correct and not "thrift-shop" prices at all.
Hence, an asking price of 3300 US dollar for the lenses that you want to sell is just ridiculous. I am sorry, but that's just the way it is.
I have about 40 Minolta AF lenses myself and I probably will never sell them. Simply because I would loose too much money on them if I did.
BTW: just as Stevemark I have all the lenses that you want to sell, except for the AF 1.4/35.
If you want to sell it seperately I would be interested.... at a reasonabe asking price . |
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
I fully understand what you are saying and i fully agree ....
but both of you do not have the 1.4/35 🤔
and, it appears, have not checked "sold prices" on eBay .... but most people have better things to do, i know .....
but if you'd did, you'd see that i'm neither "inventing prices" - nor am I ridiculous -
🤷â€â™‚ï¸
P.S i'd be very curious to hear your offer on your missing lens ! _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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Lucse
 Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Lucse wrote:
| Mir wrote: |
I fully understand what you are saying and i fully agree ....
but both of you do not have the 1.4/35 🤔
and, it appears, have not checked "sold prices" on eBay .... but most people have better things to do, i know .....
but if you'd did, you'd see that i'm neither "inventing prices" - nor am I ridiculous - |
I wrote: "an asking price of 3300 US dollar for the lenses that you want to sell is just ridiculous."
If you want to translate this to "you are ridiculous" then you are indeed .
The only (good) conclusion you should draw out of this is that you should sell that 35mm 1:1.4 seperately.
Anyone who wants to buy this set and/or bid on it will do so for that lens, and that lens only. Everything else will be seen as "ballast" and will be taken it, so to speak, for free. |
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
actually, it's not a conclusion .....
it's how it all started (!)
Still no offer ?? _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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Lucse
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Lucse wrote:
You asked: "I want to sell these Minolta AF lenses as a group, i'll add a boxed Sony LA-EA4 adapter and a 4000AF flash to the mix....
I'd be looking for $3300 USD
Tell me what you think ......"
Well I gave you excactly what you asked.
Why should I make you an offer?
You want to sell this and you are asking advise and opinions about it.
But it's all too clear that you have made up your mind and need no advise at all. You only want confirmation.
So, good luck with the selling. Put it all for sale for 3300 USD. It's a fantastic price. |
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
Thanks for your time. _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
Thanks for your interest !
I’ve started using them more and more and
after stevemark’s supervision, I’ve decided to
keep them …. _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Primoplan 2/58, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, Biotar 2/5,8cm, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: ELMARIT-R 2.8/28, SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin), ELMARIT-R 2.8/135
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, Serenar 1.9/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : Konishiroku Hexanon 1.9/50, YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 2/28, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200, 4/28-135
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Lloydy
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Lloydy wrote:
That's a great set of lenses, and it's interesting to see they are creating interest. The more common Minolta AF lenses seem impossible to sell here in the UK, at the Camera Fair people don't even pick them up to look at, I've never sold one - or any of the AF camera bodies. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 5303 Location: Switzerland
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stevemark wrote:
| Mir wrote: |
Thanks for your interest !
I’ve started using them more and more and
after stevemark’s supervision, I’ve decided to
keep them …. |
Uh-oh ... I really hope you didn't mind my honest answer ... But as you know I basically grew up using those lenses (plus a few more). Mots of them are as good or even better than the very best contemporary MF lenses such as Zeiss CY 1.4/35, Nikkor 2.8/20mm and 1.8/105mm or Canon nFD 2.8/20mm and 2/100mm. These days the only sought-after lens in your set is the MinAF 1.4/35mm, of course.
Glad you are happy with them!
| Lloydy wrote: |
| That's a great set of lenses, and it's interesting to see they are creating interest. The more common Minolta AF lenses seem impossible to sell here in the UK, at the Camera Fair people don't even pick them up to look at, I've never sold one - or any of the AF camera bodies. |
Same here in Switzerland, pronounced by the fact that the Minolta AF 1st gen and 2nd gen stuff was the most common SLR gear in Switzerland, back then. Everybody and his grandma had the 7000, 7000i and subsequent models.
And of course there are truckloads of plastic-fantastic zooms still in circulation, together with more than enough 1st gen full metal MinAF zoom lenses (28-85, 28-135, 35-105, 70-210, and 75-300). All these lenses are surprisingly good for their time, and better than most MF zooms from the late 1970s. Primes such as the 2.8/24, 1.4/50, 2.8/50 Macro and 2.8/100 Macro are in the CHF 50 - 100.-- range, the 2/28 and 2/100 may fetch 150- 200, and even the nice 1.4/85 and 2.8/200 APO rarely go above CHF 350.--. Same goes for the extremely well built G class zooms 3.5/17-35G, 2.8/28-70G and 2.8/80-200G ... Only 1.4/35, 4/200 APO, 2.8/300 APO, 4.5/400 APO and 4/600 APO are in the 800.-- to 2000.-- range.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch
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