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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DrBB wrote:
Croatia - Ghetaldus Zagreb (Ghenar lens on King Regula IIIa camera)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Zrak Sarajavo (not quite sure if they actually did photographic lenses, but there was one series of Altix camera made/assembled there)


Thank you! That's great. Zrak Sarajevo cameras seem to have been equipped with Meyer lenses as far as I can see. However the company also made night scopes, so it's certainly possible that they made some lenses. I'll keep my eyes peeled for those...


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In Liechtenstein kilfitt claimed to have produced its early macros in Vaduz. i do not know whether this was for tax reasons or whether they actually did not produce these in München.

Also Zeiss had economic ties with Kollmorgen before the name moved to the US as well as links with Rathenow where Busch resided I will have to look up and quote the sources for this if you intend to use the list as an ultimate reference.

p


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
paulhofseth wrote:
In Liechtenstein kilfitt claimed to have produced its early macros in Vaduz. i do not know whether this was for tax reasons or whether they actually did not produce these in München.

Also Zeiss had economic ties with Kollmorgen before the name moved to the US as well as links with Rathenow where Busch resided I will have to look up and quote the sources for this if you intend to use the list as an ultimate reference.

p


Thank you very much! According to Thiele's book "Die Deutsche Photoindustrie" Kollmorgen produced lenses for Zeiss, but wasn't listed as a separate lens manufacturer.

I've added Kilfitt under Germany. Unless they had their own lens development in Vaduz, I'm assuming the plant there was for manufacturing only, but I honestly don't know.

There are many more small manufacturers from Germany, I need to add eventually.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The father of my best friend in high school was director at Nedinsco. I think they only made military optics at that time, but they were some spin off of Zeiss if I’m not wrong.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
simple.joy wrote:
Ernst Dinkla wrote:
https://stichtinghistorischemicroscopie.nl/en/category/oip-gand-en/

Belgium: microscopes, cameras, army equipement.

https://fotohandeldelfshaven.nl/product/oip-gand-labor-4-5-250mm-soft-focus-lens/


Thank you so much - that's excellent! Now there's one for Belgium as well.


Yes, I couldn't leave our neighbours unmentioned. BTW, I guess then OIP in the France part should be removed.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ugo Lantz was it mentioned ? According to wiki, These lenses were produced by the Tourret-Narat company situated in Saint Etienne (Weber Fex camera mount it)


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
caspert79 wrote:
The father of my best friend in high school was director at Nedinsco. I think they only made military optics at that time, but they were some spin off of Zeiss if I’m not wrong.


http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Nedinsco

Some licensed cameras are mentioned there.
I have seen one for sale at Marktplaats. https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/fotocamera-s-analoog/m2154801302-nedinsco-primo


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
in his book on Kilfitt, Patrice Herve Pont writes that the Vaduz plant made bellows and helixes and assembled parts coming form München for the amcro-Kilar AND that the early 40mms probably were assembled from glass polished by Rodenstock and originally intended for Kilfitts reflex camera. So I assume that the early operations were mainly of a mechanical character and hence their Liechtenstein workshops do not qualify for the list.

Ad Kollmorgen I have only been able to find a reference to the factory moving from Berlin after its premises were bomb damaged in 1943, and that Zeiss held 53% of its capital.

The detailed Zeiss economic hisitory vol II by professor Walther in Jena describes the import-export outfit in the Netherlands established in 1921 as a way to circumvent restrictions on German trade with the rest of the world, and keepng income hidden from German authorities.

Defining the start and end dates plus the actual design and production activities will determine how extensive this list becomes
(The purpose of this list, however, remains unclear, should it encompass artisanal workshops far back in time, or list factories having produced image producing optics still being traded and used )

p.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
paulhofseth wrote:
in his book on Kilfitt, Patrice Herve Pont writes that the Vaduz plant made bellows and helixes and assembled parts coming form München for the amcro-Kilar AND that the early 40mms probably were assembled from glass polished by Rodenstock and originally intended for Kilfitts reflex camera. So I assume that the early operations were mainly of a mechanical character and hence their Liechtenstein workshops do not qualify for the list.

Ad Kollmorgen I have only been able to find a reference to the factory moving from Berlin after its premises were bomb damaged in 1943, and that Zeiss held 53% of its capital.

The detailed Zeiss economic hisitory vol II by professor Walther in Jena describes the import-export outfit in the Netherlands established in 1921 as a way to circumvent restrictions on German trade with the rest of the world, and keepng income hidden from German authorities.

Defining the start and end dates plus the actual design and production activities will determine how extensive this list becomes
(The purpose of this list, however, remains unclear, should it encompass artisanal workshops far back in time, or list factories having produced image producing optics still being traded and used )

p.


Thanks for the additional information and context.

The list is intended to encompass all European manufacturers of photographic lenses (including projection and industrial lenses) throughout history until today. Even small workshops and failed companies are welcome additions as long as they made something resembling a complete lens, somewhat usable for photography (and not just single lens elements or other parts, like shutters, filters etc.).


PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another Dutch company:
Nedoptifa could be mentioned, it was purchased by Oldelft in 1970. Mrs Bleeker, the founder of the company was the scientific and technological genius to produce Zernike's phasecontrast microscope he got the Nobel Prize for. Products later mainly scientific instruments like spectroscopes but in an early stage also army binoculars, telescopes etc.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ernst Dinkla wrote:
Another Dutch company:
Nedoptifa could be mentioned, it was purchased by Oldelft in 1970. Mrs Bleeker, the founder of the company was the scientific and technological genius to produce Zernike's phasecontrast microscope he got the Nobel Prize for. Products later mainly scientific instruments like spectroscopes but in an early stage also army binoculars, telescopes etc.


Thanks - very interesting!
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