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Petzval 1840
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 Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Photo taken with a British Beck symmetrical. Patent of 1860. |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hi:
I show them a photo taken with a British lens of the XIXth century in precarious conditions: I had to support the lens with the hand in the bellows. The lens is one Beck symmetrically. The diaphragm of the photo was f:8.
The photo is only a test and it does not try to be an artistic photo.
The patent of this lens is of 1860.
It is fascinating to take photos with lenses designed 150 years ago.
Bests Regards. David.
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Interesting lens and maker.
I believe this is another Aplanat, also commonly called Rapid Rectilinear in the US and Britain.
Many Beck Symmetrical were used in the 1890's-1910's on British cameras.
This type of Aplanat was probably the most common lens for quality cameras in that time.
One thing you may want to try is just the front or just the rear elements alone, you will get a doublet with a long focal length.
The result is as usual with what I have seen of these, low contrast and not sharp at f/8. They can get very sharp though, and even contrast gets better when stopped down. My Bausch&Lomb Rapid Rectilinears are very sharp even for digital at f/16. Very hard to focus !
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Well done !!!!
Any PP ? It seems that not.
Thanks for sharing.
Rino.
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rbelyell
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
so interesting. with what camera?
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greg
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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greg wrote:
I appreciate seeing old lenses getting some use.
Good posting, thanks. |
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Petzval 1840
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hello:
This morning I have taken this photo to f: 16 with Beck Symmetrical Lens. F = 150 mm (6 ") approximately.
My camera is a Pentax K 200 D.
Bests Regards: David
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fourmix
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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fourmix wrote:
Any pics of the lens ? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
well done, indeed.
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Petzval 1840
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: Beck symmetrical lens (f:8 to 45). |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hello friends:
I show them the photos of Beck Symmetrical lens (f: 8 to 45) given by the seller: I start getting fond of these old lenses and to forgetting the modern ones. The problem is that all these lenses turn into very long telephoto lenses into my Pentax K 200 D.
Bests Regards: David.
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rbelyell
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
lovely looking lenses and pictures. sounds like its time for a full frame camera! 
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Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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Petzval 1840
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hello all the people
The lenses more strangers in Spain (Europe) and in other European countries are the Britishs, USA and French: I could have bought several Wollensak and an Ektar, for Speed Graphic and four old brass British lenses, like two Beck.
It hurts that the digital support pair my old Hasselblad 500 C has a price that I cannot pay, since these old lenses would give a good yield with a sensor of 6 X 6 cm.
Bests Regards: David |
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MrCynical
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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MrCynical wrote:
Nice shot. Really puts our 'old' Takumars and CZJ into perspective! |
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hola David,
You can look for one of these -
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Graflex_Speed_Graphic
They can take 6x6, 6x7 and 6x9 holders for 120 film
The lensboard is just a square piece of wood, easy to make. You can mount any lens, just cut the right size hole.
Kodak Ektar, Graflex/Wollensak and Bausch&Lomb US lenses are almost all ordinary Tessars, there are very few special kinds.
European lenses are much more varied.
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fourmix
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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fourmix wrote:
Beautiful lens. I understand the pleasure to use it  |
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