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PERFEX ANASTIGMAT 75MM F 4.5
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:40 pm    Post subject: PERFEX ANASTIGMAT 75MM F 4.5 Reply with quote
I ordered a PERFEX ANASTIGMAT 75MM F 4.5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFEX-Anastigmat-1-4-5-F-75-MM-NO-102206-Lens-SCREW-MOUNT-/231553673177?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=c%252FJyAMmoylaguMITOYy42ESWipI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Anyone know anything about the lens? what lens cap / filter size it has?


Thanks


PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No idea about lens cap or filter.

I believe this is an enlarging lens, Japanese made, using a trademark easily confused by the "Perfex" rangefinders made by the old US Candid Camera Corp., which was defunct by the later 1950's. I dont think anyone offered a 75mm for that.

Somebody has this -

http://www.photoforum.com/forum/photography-discussion/49562-perfex-75mm-4-5-a.html

I guess its a triplet, most likely. Mount may be M39. No helical.


PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree, probably a 39mm, definitely an enlarging lens. You'd need a focusing helical or short bellows to use it.


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
recommendations for one?


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
vroger wrote:
recommendations for one?


What do you want to achieve?

I recommended already some macro accessories to you in another thread.
The best solution for utmost flexibility is a shift- and tilt-able bellows. However, this is more for home, i.e. studio use and nor really the best solution to explore the macro world in the meadow. But for expeditions a special macro lens would be better anyway.
As you bought this "macro head" already, you should now take the next step and this is the bellow in your case.
Good ones are from Minolta (Auto Bellows IV) or Nikon (PB-4) and I think from Contax (what I've seen).
On the other hand you could also use some extension rings in combination with a M39 adapter and focus in such a way, that you simply move the whole camera back- or forwards in order to reach the right focus distance. That is rather the quick and dirty solution, but it will also work for certain instances. There is also a flexible macro tube available (Zoerk Germany) that may be a compromise.....
A good compromise is also the Minolta "mini macro bellows", because it's a rather tiny portable solution. Adapters are needed anyway.


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tb_a wrote:
vroger wrote:
recommendations for one?


What do you want to achieve?

I recommended already some macro accessories to you in another thread.
The best solution for utmost flexibility is a shift- and tilt-able bellows. However, this is more for home, i.e. studio use and nor really the best solution to explore the macro world in the meadow. But for expeditions a special macro lens would be better anyway.
As you bought this "macro head" already, you should now take the next step and this is the bellow in your case.
Good ones are from Minolta (Auto Bellows IV) or Nikon (PB-4) and I think from Contax (what I've seen).
On the other hand you could also use some extension rings in combination with a M39 adapter and focus in such a way, that you simply move the whole camera back- or forwards in order to reach the right focus distance. That is rather the quick and dirty solution, but it will also work for certain instances. There is also a flexible macro tube available (Zoerk Germany) that may be a compromise.....
A good compromise is also the Minolta "mini macro bellows", because it's a rather tiny portable solution. Adapters are needed anyway.


Something for close up that I can use outside would be nice. I don't have a studio. I have the m39 adapter, and tubes, but I have a minolta to eos-m adapter also. how would I adapter the other end? Thinking a adjustable m39 solution would be nice. I'll look at the zoerk and the mini marco bellows.


EDIT: would this work?

Fotasy 39mm M39 to M42 lens Focusing Helicoid Adapter 17mm - 31mm (M)
http://www.amazon.com/Fotasy-39mm-Focusing-Helicoid-Adapter/dp/B0052CEKBG/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
vroger wrote:

Something for close up that I can use outside would be nice. I don't have a studio. I have the m39 adapter, and tubes, but I have a minolta to eos-m adapter also. how would I adapter the other end? Thinking a adjustable m39 solution would be nice. I'll look at the zoerk and the mini marco bellows.


If you have an adapter from your camera to Minolta MF then you can connect the Minolta bellows to that adapter. On the other side you would need an adapter from Minolta SR (MC/MD) mount to M39 and then you are ready to go.
Here is one: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Minolta-Adapterring-fur-M39-Objektive-an-Minolta-MD-Kameras-/400918282249?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item5d58978009
A cheaper possibility is to use a m42 to Minolta SR/MC/MD adapter and add a M39 to M42 ring in between. Both is available for only a few bucks:
1. M42 thread onto the M39 lens: http://www.ebay.at/itm/M42-auf-M39-Objektive-lens-adapter-ring-Adapterring-Neu-/280658405039?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item41588b66af
2. M42 to Minolta SR: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Adapter-for-M42-lenses-to-Minolta-SR-cameras-Ref-227142-6-/161696471849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a5dc5b29


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tb_a wrote:
vroger wrote:

Something for close up that I can use outside would be nice. I don't have a studio. I have the m39 adapter, and tubes, but I have a minolta to eos-m adapter also. how would I adapter the other end? Thinking a adjustable m39 solution would be nice. I'll look at the zoerk and the mini marco bellows.


If you have an adapter from your camera to Minolta MF then you can connect the Minolta bellows to that adapter. On the other side you would need an adapter from Minolta SR (MC/MD) mount to M39 and then you are ready to go.
Here is one: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Minolta-Adapterring-fur-M39-Objektive-an-Minolta-MD-Kameras-/400918282249?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item5d58978009
A cheaper possibility is to use a m42 to Minolta SR/MC/MD adapter and add a M39 to M42 ring in between. Both is available for only a few bucks:
1. M42 thread onto the M39 lens: http://www.ebay.at/itm/M42-auf-M39-Objektive-lens-adapter-ring-Adapterring-Neu-/280658405039?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item41588b66af
2. M42 to Minolta SR: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Adapter-for-M42-lenses-to-Minolta-SR-cameras-Ref-227142-6-/161696471849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item25a5dc5b29


Got it, I only can find the Nikon PB-4 on ebay, zero matches for the other two.


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
vroger wrote:

Got it, I only can find the Nikon PB-4 on ebay, zero matches for the other two.


That would be the right one. Obviously I mixed it up. Minolta is III and Nikon is 4.
However this is inclusive the lens and far too expensive, but if you scroll down you see the bellows and how it works also in tilt/shift positions: http://www.ebay.at/itm/AUTO-BELLOWS-BALGENGERAT-III-SHIFT-TILT-MINOLTA-MD-ADAPTABLE-EOS-NEX-MFT-3-5-50-/310891781052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item4862981bbc

However, if you invest in a bellow I would really recommend to look for the "luxory version". I have both the Minolta and the Nikon bellows and additionally the "Minolta Compact Bellows" as shown here: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Minolta-MD-Kompakt-Balgengerat-Compact-Bellows-1A-TOP-neuwertig-8347-/131500207502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9e05ed8e

NO, I don't sell. Wink


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here I found the Contax bellows, just to show you how it looks: http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_de/contax-yashica-contax-n-645/35mm-slr-accessories/contax-auto-bellows-set-sku22626-1.html


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So I spent $9 shipped... So any economy or economical Options???


PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
vroger wrote:
So I spent $9 shipped... So any economy or economical Options???


The most economical way would have been to skip the lens and just buy an reverse ring which allow you to connect any of your existing lenses the other way round to the camera. If a lens has got a 49mm filter thread that would mean you have to buy only a reverse ring from 49 to 42 mm and you then can adapt any lens with 49mm filter thread to your camera to M42 adapter. Focusing is done manually by moving the whole assembly back and forwards until the right distance is reached. That's all.
Just to show you such a ring: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Umkehrring-M42-auf-49mm-Gewinde-/161260340532?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_16&hash=item258bdd8534
That was also my first investment in macro photography some decades ago....
Option two for low budget: Attach a short tele lens to your camera and attach a reversed shorter lens to the lens. There are also special adapter rings available for this. Be careful not to mix up the requirements for inner or outer mount. So this adapter should look like two filters which are clued together without glass. Example: http://www.ebay.at/itm/Umkehrring-Reversering-49mm-/380594364831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item589d31219f
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