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2contagious
Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: Pentacon 135/2.8 'Preset Manual' and 'Electric' difference? |
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2contagious wrote:
Hi, I wanted to ask what the difference is between the Pentacon 135mm 2.8 lens in its 'preset manual' version and its 'electric' version. The lenses seem to be different externally (different look). is there any difference in terms of quality and performance? which version would be the famous 'bokeh monster'?
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Both of them are based on the same optical design, but the older one (pre-set) has better build and 15 aperture blades ( = "bokehmonster").
The newer one may have slightly better contrast, but it has only 6 aperture blades. _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
What might be of interest is that the pre-set version has interchangeable mount: the back ring can be taken off and replaced by another of different mount: M42, Exakta and Praktina were supplied, and they're compatible with the mount used on the pre-set 200/4 Pentacon/Meyer Orestegor.
Do it the easy way: see if you can get a couple made which is T2 screw, that would make mix-and-match a lot easier |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The preset would be my choice. The bokeh I feel is a bit overrated but it is quite good.
My favourite 135 in my collection is the Zeiss 135 which can be found for a fraction more. It's brutally sharp, great bokeh, contrast and saturation. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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hk300
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: |
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hk300 wrote:
The later version, non-preset versions are more widely available.
I think that the preset version is more unique, but be careful, although no-X states that this version has better build (mechanically-wise), the coating-strength sucks! It is as soft as butter!
I have damaged (or should i say almost removed) the coating by my attempt to clean it. _________________ No longer member , please don't try to contact to him |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I agree, the coating can be really soft, but it depends on model. The oldest lenses has often the soft coating (similar to old meyer alu lenses), but newer samples doesn't have this problem. _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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2contagious
Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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2contagious wrote:
thanks for your replies.
I've got another question, I found the preset manual one in two different versions.. one has the focus and aperture info written in green on the lens, whereas the other lens has the info written in red - what's the deal here? |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I think there are at least 5 different pre-set models. But optical performance is the same. Take the cheaper one or the one, which do you like more _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Here is an example how coating changed in time. All of them are "bokehmonsters", but not all models are present. The oldes one is on the left:
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