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etorix
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 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject: Panasonic LUMIX DMC-G3 16.0 MP |
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etorix wrote:
i started in Micro-4/3rds with a G1, bought for 60gbp earlier this year
which actually im just about familiar with now
i'm pretty much in control of it, and i know what to watch out for so it stays under control -- it did get away from me quite a lot at first
but ive bin feeling the need for a second body
i always used to have at least 2 working bodies when i was in the field, Nikon F2 was my favorite, and a FM or so, i even had a Nikomat [sic] which i bought in Japan
today i won a G3 auction, paying about 90gbp
its got more megapixellage as well as video capability -- i kinda look at it as changing to a faster film, in my head
i just hope i can control it quickly, its menus are not too 'dumbed down' or so |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
hmm .. have i seen comments slagging off the G3?
whats wrong with it then? |
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etorix
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:36 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
well, this arrived, in a fairly tatty box but its effectively new, never opened not taken out of its packaging as far as i can tell
got one problem tho, which i didnt take seriously enough
no battery
its in the sellers' description, i just kinda ignored the fact
might have one tomorrow but |
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mo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:27 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I look forward to seeing what you think of this camera. Are the batteries interchangeable between panasonic camera models?
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etorix
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
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| I look forward to seeing what you think of this camera. Are the batteries interchangeable between panasonic camera models? |
sadly, no, not as far i'm aware
and most definitely not between my G1 and the G3
one thing worries me so far -- the lid on the battery/SDCard compartment looks rather flimsy and possibly leaky
-- i think it needs a half-case for protection in the field
ive got some leather ones spotted, but in HK and China |
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mo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It can't be as bad as the Pentax K-01 external battery cover,  With a bit of practice it works ok. I hope the G3's works just as good regardless of how it may appear.
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etorix
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
does feel weird having the camera but no batt, so it cant anything
even reading the manual is useless, i have no reference
its quite likely to get used to shoot video
so good spare batts will be essential
its like a joke "batteries not included" |
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etorix
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
well, a batt arrived today, ive charged it and fitted it
using the sd-card from the G1 .. i fitted my only Lumix lens, the 14mm 2.5 and did a basic setup, using the quick guide booklet it arrived with
the G3 is smallerand lighter than the G1, and it hasnt got that odd nasty rubbery finish .. its a harder semi-matt surface mostly
the viewfinder definitely has more pixellage
menus seem different, but it sets up about the same so far
WB setup seems to show fewer options
havent even touched the video options, looked a bit tho
apparently theres a full Manual on CD, prolly PDFs
i might buy a printed version online, dunno yet
i did notice references to DMW-MA2M etc, the in-house adapters for Leica M AND R lenses .. which need 'shoot w/o lens' setting .. made me grin a bit |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Tervueren wrote:
http://www.print-my-pdf.com give these a go, I've used them before and was very happy with the results |
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etorix
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
hmm .. invoice for this batt claims it to be a genuine Panasonic product, as does the battery itself
it cost 14.99 iirc for 1010maH |
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etorix
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
i'm having an odd issue with this G3
i had a Michael 35mm CCTV on it, which came already fitted with M43 mount
it hung when i tried to take it off, seemed to get tangled or so, dunno, i couldnt seem to line it up to come off
i didnt force it, but i did get it removed eventually, to try the other Nikon in the M43 adapter [the 5cm f2 was fine yesterday]
but now neither Nikkor will focus at all on the G3
they mount and focus fine on the G1
as does the Michael, as do both Leitzes
i'm not trying the Michael on G3 for now, tho it was purchased with video-shooting in mind
i cant see any damage, or anything bent
i just cant see why the mflenses Nikon-S to M43 wont focus on one, when it works fine on theother |
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etorix
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:35 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
found a nice thing online
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By depressing the control wheel into the body, with the G3 you get a 10x magnified center rectangle (the magnification is variable at will), picture-in-picture, which makes manual focus trivially simple and dead accurate.
Press again or touch the shutter release and the EVF returns to normal display. |
very useful |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:15 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
since theres a definite intention to be shooting video with this, i thought i should try several different batteries
luckily enough, one turned out to be apparently the genuine Panasonic article @ 14.99gbp
i ordered 2 others, both around the 10gbp mark .. all 1010maH
all seemed to offer fast delivery
actually the 'genuine Panasonic' was the first to arrive
also the only one that inspires trust, just from appearance
3 batts = one in use, one spare, one recharging |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:52 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
Revisiting The Panasonic G1: Is The Micro Four Thirds Old-Timer Still Any Good?
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/07/15/revisiting-the-panasonic-g1-is-the-micro-four-thirds-old-timer-still-any-good/
i like my G1
its so nice to pick up now, it has a familiarity to it
it was approaching the stage of needing a spare battery ... |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:48 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
investigating PTool, firmware editor
allegedly could work on G1 as well as G3, gonna have a play later |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:35 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
and .. OK .. totally hacked a latest G1 firmware to accept 3rd-party batteries erm .. 'quietly'
erm, dunno actually
cant test till i get one, a 3rd-party battery, test it pre-flash, see how annoying it is
also made more changes to a copy of the latest G3 fw
some that seemed obvious, like the time-limit thingie, but theres gazillions that i dont understand, i have zero clue, need to read a bit more
at least i got in there |
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etorix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
right then, BookOfWords has arrived
or
Panasonic
Operating instructions
for advanced features
Digital Camera
Model No DMC-G3
coffeetable sized binder, great book at bedtime
someones lil cottage industry .. i cant be doin w/pdf, i do like pages tho |
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mo
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:18 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Have you taken any images with it yet?
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etorix
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:04 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
sure, i carry it about with me, i'm trying to get used to it, get it used to me
occasionally changing its lens
like nappy
trying to find what it likes
it hates my RF Nikkors definitely, thats for sure
after it bit my Michael CCTV they dont focus anymore [they work fine on the G1]
currently both bodies have 5cm f2.0 on, and i cant just swap them over for 'testing'
i havent done a firmware dump from it yet
ive done some minor editing on a fresh copy of the latest firmware from Panasonic tho
with Ptool, a gui with tickboxes
almost entirely aimed at video options, stuff left not-turned-on i guess
its very .. electronic, this camera, i cany say i like it yet, i far prefer the G1's handling
but i'm working on it |
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mo
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:41 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It does take a awhile to get used to a new camera,good luck with it.
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etorix
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:13 am Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
PTool, firmware editor can allow aftermarket batteries to work on G1
only hack available, on mine
PTool has a gazillion possible edits for G3 tho, pretty much all for video settings |
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etorix
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
hm .. i do really need a half-case for this
i was wearing it under my jacket, and when i loosened my scarf in the shop it got tangled in the battery-door and opened it
luckily neither the batt nor the card fell out
guess i'd better wait till the xmas rush is over, but i need one |
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etorix
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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etorix wrote:
leather half-case ordered from China.
in fact, just dispatched ..
into the post-xmas blackhole out there |
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