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nixland
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:55 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
vilva wrote: |
Anyway, most "photographers" just waste their money buying optically superior lenses as they only take photos for web use, often at image sizes significantly smaller than 1 Mpixel. Personally, I make a reasonable number of large prints, but these days even most of those are of photos taken with my crappy lenses - I need the good lenses just to show that I have the option, to show that I know what I'm doing.
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It happened to me:) And those statement has become one of my 'guardian-angel' wiseword to control my lens buying addiction.
Well, one of the aspects that encourage me to explore (buying) any good MF lenses out there (beside the extreme curiosity) is that the price of the lenses are stable and even can go higher, so that I won't loose my money
But somehow I still consider that the price of this V125, one of my dream-lens, is still beyond my LBA. I still has no guts to grab it _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
Carl Zeiss C/Y: Planar 50/1.4 T*, Planar 85/1.4 T*, Planar 100/2 T*, Sonnar 135/2.8 T*
Leica: Summicron-R 35/2 v1, Summicron-R 50/2, Summilux-R 80/1.4, Summicron-R 90/2
Pentax: A 50/1.2
Minolta: Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 85/1.7, Rokkor MC 100/2, MD 200/2.8
Olympus: Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2, Zuiko 50/1.2, Zuiko MC Auto-T 85/2, Zuiko Auto-T 100/2
Nikon: Nikkor 28/2.8 Ais, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikkor 105/1.8, 300/2.8 ED (Ais)
Canon: FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L
Sony: 135/2.8 STF
Jupiter: 85/2 Alu
Cyclop: 85/1.5
Meyer-Optic: Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5
Samyang: 8/3.5 FE, 14/2.8, 85/1.4, 85/1.4 UMC
FOR SALE
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 10cm/2 || Carl Zeiss ZE Distagon 28/2 || Minolta Rokkor MD 35/1.8 || Rokkor-X MC 85/1.7 || Rokkor MD 85/1.7 || Olympus Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2 || Olympus 100/2 || Nikon Nikkor 35/1.4 || Canon: FD 55/1.2 || Vivitar 90/2.5 Series 1 VMC || Tamron: 90/2.5 SP
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nixland
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
vilva wrote: |
That blog of mine has been dead for a long time. For my more recent take on old and somewhat newer lenses look at my web site at http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/.
Veijo |
Wow, this blog is one of my reference blog when I start exploring manual lenses. An honor to know you Mr. Vilva _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
Carl Zeiss C/Y: Planar 50/1.4 T*, Planar 85/1.4 T*, Planar 100/2 T*, Sonnar 135/2.8 T*
Leica: Summicron-R 35/2 v1, Summicron-R 50/2, Summilux-R 80/1.4, Summicron-R 90/2
Pentax: A 50/1.2
Minolta: Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 85/1.7, Rokkor MC 100/2, MD 200/2.8
Olympus: Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2, Zuiko 50/1.2, Zuiko MC Auto-T 85/2, Zuiko Auto-T 100/2
Nikon: Nikkor 28/2.8 Ais, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikkor 105/1.8, 300/2.8 ED (Ais)
Canon: FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L
Sony: 135/2.8 STF
Jupiter: 85/2 Alu
Cyclop: 85/1.5
Meyer-Optic: Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5
Samyang: 8/3.5 FE, 14/2.8, 85/1.4, 85/1.4 UMC
FOR SALE
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 10cm/2 || Carl Zeiss ZE Distagon 28/2 || Minolta Rokkor MD 35/1.8 || Rokkor-X MC 85/1.7 || Rokkor MD 85/1.7 || Olympus Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2 || Olympus 100/2 || Nikon Nikkor 35/1.4 || Canon: FD 55/1.2 || Vivitar 90/2.5 Series 1 VMC || Tamron: 90/2.5 SP
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Frogfish
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 57 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Frogfish wrote:
kryss wrote: |
Vilva,thanks,you proved my point which many obviously missed.I was not saying that the apo- lanthar was a poor lens,rather paying $2000 was a ridiculous price to pay expecting to become a better photographer when equal or better results can be had using other optics by an experienced photographer.Glad to see you here as I have always admired your work. |
I'm surprised you drew that conclusion because Vilva didn't say that at all :
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Speaking of the price of some "cult" lenses, for some photographers really using a lens, even the cult price of a lens like the 125 mm Apo-Lanthar may be reasonable, not because the lens is really worth the price at some single application but because the lens is good overall, good as a single, all-purpose lens from macro to infinity, at full aperture or stopped down to diffraction limit. It is very easy to spend a fortune buying a lot of cheap or medium price lenses, each very good at a strictly limited area, there is no such thing as a free lunch. |
Vilva - that is a quite fantastic site you have put up. I have bookmarked it and you can be sure will visit often. Thank you so much for all your hard work ! _________________ http://frogfish.smugmug.com/
Nikon D800E, D600, Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon 35/2, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 500/4.5 (for sale), Sigma 120-300/2.8, Nikon 85/1.8G, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Sigma DG x2.0 |
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komet
Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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komet wrote:
BRunner wrote: |
For macro work you usually stop down your lens to f5.6 and even more due to DOF. At this aperture all good macros are free of CA. At f8 I can hardly tell differences between my APO-Macro-Elmarit 2.8/100 and Tamron Macro 2.8/90 (except some nuances in color rendering and contrast). Sure, WIDE-OPEN AME beats all my lenses hands down, BUT who shots macros @f2.8?
I think that same applies to CV125. It's surely great lens (based on my experiences with CV90 and CV180), BUT for macro work at small apertures the difference between 2000USD CV125 and 200USD Sigma 105 or Tamron 90 would be neglible. So, I fully agree with kryss, that for his needs, the CV125 is overpriced. |
But if you want to shoot wide open, there are only AME or CV125 with good IQ and little CAs? |
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