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duartix
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Lisbon
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: Oly E-410 & Tamron 300mm SP, I need a sample, pretty ple |
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duartix wrote:
I just lifted this Tamron 300m f5.6 (Model 670Au) from customs but I'm still divided whether I should get a regular 300mm SP or not.
For the time being, I'd welcome an unprocessed 100% crop of a moon shot with the later on a 4/3 10MP camera. (Can't think of a more repeatable test)
Thank you in advance.
P.S. I hereby promise to publish a review on my lens once my E-510 get's back from the repair shop. |
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Riku
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
I have the model CT-300. SP lenses should be better but also much more expensive. |
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
I'd be very interested to see how your silver one performs. It looks so good.
I have a 410 and an SP version so will have a shot at the moon if I can see it. _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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duartix
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Lisbon
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
Xpres wrote: |
I have a 410 and an SP version so will have a shot at the moon if I can see it. |
Thanks.
In doubt, use spot metering, mirror lock up (5 seconds should do) and a tripod.
Let me know the ISO F-stop and speed you used so I can repeat it.
One crop for F5.6 and another for F8.0 should do.
Thanks again.
For my part I'll try the same the same pictures with:
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (not the SP)
Tamron SP 500mm (mirror)
Olympus OM 200mm F4 + TCON 1.7x
From early impressions, I guess all my lenses are very close to each other... |
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
Well Ok then... just popped outside and made a couple of shots with the SP300 and also a Yashica ML 300/5.6 just out of interest. Used the tripod and mirror up and spot.
THese are raw shots converted in ACR at default settings with all the sharpening and noise settings set to zero. All iso 100
Tamron 54B
@f5.6 1/160
@f8 1/50
Yashica
@f5.6 1/80
@f8 1/50
_________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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duartix
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Lisbon
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
This thread isn't forgotten, but since my camera got back from the repair shop I haven't had either the weather or a clear head to do it but I guess tomorrow I might see some white smoke. |
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duartix
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Lisbon
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
This is bloody bad luck, now that I have the time only 3% of the moon is visible.
Guess this test will be posponed for around 2 weeks.
Well, I've got 8 dandelions remaining and 2 adapters to chip, I might get to work right away... |
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duartix
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Lisbon
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Ok here they are... |
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duartix wrote:
Well I'm not waiting anymore (who knows what the wheather will be for the coming week) so I made a quick and dirty test... I'll do a proper one should I find the time again.
I didn't follow my asked values because my tripod is very flimsy and I needed faster exposures to avoid blur, so I raised ISO.
As a consequence I had to process the RAWs in Bibble (just noise ninja with 0 luma strnght, 10 chroma strenght, 0 USM)
I do think for sharpness this might do.
Tamron 500mm SP @F8.0, ISO800, t=1/400
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (Model 670Au) @F5.6, ISO800, t=1/400
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (Model 670Au) @F6.7, ISO400, t=1/250
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (Model 670Au) @F8, ISO400, t=1/250
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (Model 670Au) @F9.5, ISO400, t=1/120
Zuiko 200mm @F4 + TC1.7, ISO400, t=1/800
Zuiko 200mm @F5.6 + TC1.7, ISO400, t=1/1000
Zuiko 200mm @F8 + TC1.7, ISO400, t=1/500
There are a lot of issues with this test.
a) ISO and exposure time is much faster than those posted before by Xpres
b) the Zuiko 200mm + TCon 1.7x had to be handheld because I couldn't mount it on the tripod.
c) Exposures with the TCon are very erratic with F5.6 beeing faster than F4.
Still after all this shooting I think there is little to be gained in sharpness between either the:
Tamron 500mm SP F8 (mirror),
Tamron 300mm SP 54B F5.6,
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (670Au) or
Zuiko 200mm F4 + TCon 1.7x
My preference is divided between these two:
Tamron 500mm SP F8 (mirror) - very light, easier focusing through viewfinder but much harder through Live View, less resolution per pixel (images must be reduced), needs good light.
Tamron 300mm F5.6 (670Au) - much bigger and heavier, not as easy focusing through viewfinder, but easier through Live View, more resolution per pixel (images need not be reduced) and more FOV captured with the same detail.
I must say the Zuiko 200mm + TCon is a desilusion, the size is huge (bigger than the 670Au), focusing is hard either way, chromatic aberrations at F5.6 are very heavy, and without a way to hold the lens on a tripod it's very heavy work...
I think I'll be looking out for a 300 SP F5.6 but only if the price is right... |
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