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carlosriaga
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:07 pm Post subject: Nikon d700 or Nikon d750 or Nikon d7200 for birding |
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carlosriaga wrote:
Hi I currently have a Nikon d5300 and a vintage canon 400mm prime lens. I want to change my actual camera and I'm considering the Nikon d700 or Nikon d750 or Nikon d7200.
I was thrilled with the d700 but I'm not sure if the 12mp will give too little space for cropping. The Nikon d750 has more mp and video but lacks the reputation of the d700. I've also found people using the d7200 due the cropping factor of dx sensor for bird photography with nice results.
I'm into manual focus vintage lenses, and I've read that the d700 has a rangefinder to assist the manual focus.
Any advise about which camera choose? |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1234 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
I'd move up from the DX/APSC sensor to full frame for birding.
Of the other cameras, the D-700 is getting a little bit long in the tooth. It is still capable of making quality images, despite the pixel count- full frame is sort of cool that way.
The shutter in the D-750 is a bit on the loud side for birding.
It may be worth your while to look into a D-810, or newer camera.
It has a quiet shutter that can be made even more quiet by selecting the quiet shutter mode.
It won't lack for megapixels either.
There's a drawback to the nikon dslr's: You're stuck with nikon mount lenses.
Use of other mount lenses is going to require an optical adapter in most situations- at a cost of image quality.
I have a D-810 here, and get along with it fairly well.
There's a bit of a learning curve with it- I had to carry the manual for the camera with me for the first month or so, until I learned where and what everything is on the camera.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4108 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon d700 or Nikon d750 or Nikon d7200 for birding |
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stevemark wrote:
carlosriaga wrote: |
Hi I currently have a Nikon d5300 and a vintage canon 400mm prime lens.
I want to change my actual camera and I'm considering the Nikon d700 or Nikon d750 or Nikon d7200.
I was thrilled with the d700 but I'm not sure if the 12mp will give too little space for cropping. The Nikon d750 has more mp and video but lacks the reputation of the d700. I've also found people using the d7200 due the cropping factor of dx sensor for bird photography with nice results.
I'm into manual focus vintage lenses, and I've read that the d700 has a rangefinder to assist the manual focus.
Any advise about which camera choose? |
I'm not into birding, but I've noticed that many (I would says almost all) vintage tele lenses (due to longitudinal CAs) are laying a a magenta "veil" over fine structures such as feathers or roofs with tiles. It's hard to remove, and it doesn't look good. 24MP FF (let alone 12 MP FF) is much less critical in this respect. What are your experiences in this regard, using your Canon 400mm lens (which one??)?
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carlosriaga
Joined: 07 Dec 2023 Posts: 26
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon d700 or Nikon d750 or Nikon d7200 for birding |
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carlosriaga wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
I'm not into birding, but I've noticed that many (I would says almost all) vintage tele lenses (due to longitudinal CAs) are laying a a magenta "veil" over fine structures such as feathers or roofs with tiles. It's hard to remove, and it doesn't look good. 24MP FF (let alone 12 MP FF) is much less critical in this respect. What are your experiences in this regard, using your Canon 400mm lens (which one??)?
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Hi Stevemark, the lens is a canon FD 400mm 1:4.5 SSC, my previous lens and first lens ever was a Tamron 200-400 AF 1:5.6 which now I know is not a very nice lens. I'm aware of CA, so I avoid shooting in very high contrast. |
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carlosriaga
Joined: 07 Dec 2023 Posts: 26
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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carlosriaga wrote:
Doc Sharptail wrote: |
I'd move up from the DX/APSC sensor to full frame for birding.
Of the other cameras, the D-700 is getting a little bit long in the tooth.
There's a drawback to the nikon dslr's: You're stuck with nikon mount lenses.
Use of other mount lenses is going to require an optical adapter in most situations- at a cost of image quality.
-D.S. |
Hi Doc Sharptail, I had to look the idiom about the long teeth in google, jeje, I didn't knew the gum's horses receded!
I like to hear that you recommend the D-700 because that's the one i want.
The 810 is over my budget. I can get the D-700, a battery grip, an extra battery and a CF card for 400 dollars, and the cheaper D-810 is 600 dollars.
About being stuck with Nikon mount which camera brand will be better to use with vintage lenses? |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1234 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
[quote="carlosriaga"]
Doc Sharptail wrote: |
Hi Doc Sharptail, I had to look the idiom about the long teeth in google, jeje, I didn't knew the gum's horses receded!
I like to hear that you recommend the D-700 because that's the one i want.
The 810 is over my budget. I can get the D-700, a battery grip, an extra battery and a CF card for 400 dollars, and the cheaper D-810 is 600 dollars.
About being stuck with Nikon mount which camera brand will be better to use with vintage lenses? |
The functionality of the D-810 is well worth the extra 200.00 or so, in my opinion.
As to the adapted lens route, the most popular seems to be various Sony cameras that get along fine with non-optical adapters. This would be better answered by someone who actually uses this system like Stevemark and a few others here.
There are still a lot of options for using the nikon body. There's the nikkor lenses of course, and some of the third party lens makers offerings in nikon mount are decent enough. Tamron is a personal favorite with me, as well as some of the higher quality vivitars and soligors. Some of the Nikkor lenses can be very good for birding- There are some decently fine examples wildlife and birds taken with long nikkors posted on this forum.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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