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Milanos
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 Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:50 am Post subject: Nikkor 85mm F2 |
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Milanos wrote:
How good is the Nikkor 85 mm F2 lens? I have checked the pictures in gallery and they look fine, does anybody has more pictures with this lens?
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Nikkor 85mm F2 |
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Attila wrote:
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How good is the Nikkor 85 mm F2 lens? I have checked the pictures in gallery and they look fine, does anybody has more pictures with this lens?
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Nice lens ! Especially for it's price.
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Milanos
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Milanos wrote:
Many thanks Attila, I hope I will get one soon from local second hand. Looking forward. But still if anybody has few pictures with this lens, just make me happy.  |
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horvlas
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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horvlas wrote:
And how is it compares to Nikkor 1.8/85 and Nikkor 1.4/85? Does anybody has experience with theese lens?
Today I compared my old 1.4/50 Nikkor-s Auto PreAI lens to a late 1.4/50 Nikkor AI. My old lens is significanly better than the newer one! More sharp, less CA. The newer is only sharper at wide open a little bit, can only see in 100% size, but unusable for its CA.
So my old copy is better then the newer AI, I would have never thought it.
So please send only real experiences, not: "Ohh the best is 1.4/85" (Because it is the most expensive...) |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have the 2 and the 1.8. Personally I think I prefer the f2, but it is a very difficult choice. And from what I have seen and read the 1.4 is the best of the three, but marginally. It is also very much more expensive of course. Frankly I have long regarded the nikkor 85/2 AIS as one of the best values in the market, they can be picked up for very reasonable amounts. OOF rendition, colour, contrast, sharpness - all very very good.
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MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nikkor 85mm f1.8 and F2 they don't have much difference if you use them for human portraits (for portraits don't need sharpest lens at wide open!)
Black 85mm f1.8 is significantly sharper at wide open than 85mm f2.
Nikkor-H 85mm f1.8 more less same than F2 or between them. I never had 85mm f1.4.
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madamasu
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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Location: Frankfurt/Main Germany
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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madamasu wrote:
For practical information about Nikon lenses, besides the wellknown Roslett-pages:
http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_surv.html
David Ruether's subjective lense evaluations is always worth a visit:
http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/slmn.html
He says about the 85mm Nikkors:
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85mm f2 4.8 (several samples) performance declines considerably at wide stops near minimum focus (both conditions together), otherwise this lens is excellent even wide open
85mm f1.8 non-AI 4.8 (2) very good wide open, excellent stopped down slightly; flares easily with backlight in non-multicoated samples
85mm f1.4 4.8 (4) good wide open, floating element maintains good performance down to minimum focus distance, doesn't have quite the "snap" of the other Nikkor 85's tried |
The figures after the lense-name indicates, how high he rates it:
4 -- good to excellent image quality at most normally used stops,
a professional-level lens, but with some limitations (this level,
with many fractional gradations, includes most Nikkors)
5 -- excellent image quality at all stops, with only minor limitations
I only have the 85mm 1.8 K-type-lense, which more often than not, is AI'd.
I find it marvellous, and it is much cheaper and lighter than the 85mm/1.4 when you travel. As far as I know Steve McCurry's travel-bag used to include a 35mm/2 and a 85mm/1.8 (the AF-versions).
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Nikkors: 15/3.5 AI; N.C 24mm/2.8 (AIed);
N 35mm/1.4 (AIed); 45mm/2.8P; 50mm/1.2 AIS; Micro 55mm/2.8 AIS; Noct 58mm/1.2 AIS;85mm/1.8 (K-lense AIed); 105mm/2.5 AIS; 135mm/3.5 (K-lense AIed)
Voigtlaender Ultron 40mm/2; CZJ Flektogon 20mm/4 (AIed); Helios-81M; MIR-20N; Volna-3; Flektogon 50/4;Flektogon 65/2.8; Biometar 80/2.8; Biometar 120/2.8; Sonnar 180/2.8; Sonnar 300/4
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Milanos
Joined: 04 Feb 2009
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Location: Vlašim
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Milanos wrote:
Hmmm very interesting reading indeed. I will grab the lens definetely and see what I´m able to do with it. And of course please keep on posting Your experiences with this lens. |
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Wormhandler
Joined: 19 May 2008
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Location: Sweden
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Wormhandler wrote:
Here is a sample from my Ai version. I have not used it enough to give a review, but it seems to be a solid performer disregarding the purple fringing.
Crop - Plenty sharp.
Purple horror...
/Jan
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Tessar 5cm 3,5 Tessar 2,8 50mm (3 versions), Sonnar 135mm 3,5, Tessar 135mm 4,5 (Compur), Flektogon 35mm 2,4, Sonnar 180mm 2,8, Sonnar 300mm 4
Cosina Voigtländer:125mm 2,5 Macro APO Lanthar.
Enna Werk Munchen:Tele-zoom 85-250mm
Ernst Leitz Wetzlar:Voort 90mm 4, Hektor 135mm 4,5
Helios:Helios 44-4 (& 44-2) 58mm 2
Industar:Industar 5cm 3,5, Industar-22 5cm 3,5-rangefinder
Isco Göttingen:Tele Westanar 180mm 4
Meyer Optik Görlitz:Lydith 30mm 3,5, Domiplan 50mm 2,8, Primotar 50 3,5, Orestor 135mm 2,8, Telemegor 150 5,5, Telemegor 180mm 5,5, Orestegor 200mm 4 Telemegor 400mm 5,6.
Mir:Mir 1B 37mm 2,8
Nikon:
Nikkor 35 1.4, Nikkor 85 2, Series E 35mm 2,5, Nikkor 35mm 2, Micro Nikkor 55mm 2,8, Series E 100mm 2,8, Nikkor 135m 2,8, Zoom-Nikkor 35-105mm.
Olympus:F-Zuiko Auto-S 50mm 1.8 (m42), E-zuiko Auto-T 135mm 2,5 (m42), Zuiko 85mm 2 MC (OM)
Panagor (Same as vivitar i Guess):28mm 2,5, 200mm 3,5
Pentacon29mm 2,8, 50mm 1,8, 135mm 2,8
Pentax:Auto takumar 35mm 3.5
SMC-takumar 28 3.5, SMC-Takumar 50mm 1.4, SMC-takumar 135mm 3.5, Takumar (bayonet) 135mm 2.5,Takumar 500mm 4
SMC M 35mm 3.5, SMC M 40 2.8, SMC M 50mm 2, SMC M 50mm 1.7, SMC A 50mm 2, SMC M 100 2.8, SMC M 100mm 4 Macro, SMC M 135mm 3,5 SMC M 200mm 4, SMC M 80-200mm 4,5
Shacht af Ulm:Edixa travenar 50mm 2,8, Edixa Travenar 135mm 3,5
Schneider KreuznachXenar 50mm 3,5, Xenar 50mm 2,8, Radionar 80mm 2,9 (Folder), Radionar 10,5cm 4,5 (Folder), Tele-Xenar 135mm 3,5, Symmar 150mm 5,6, Tele-Xenar 200mm 5,5.
Soligor:100-300mm 5 C/D.
Steinheil:Actinar 10,5cm 4,5 (Prontor)
Tamron:Adaptall2 28mm 2.5, Adaptall2 35-70 3.5, Auto Tamron 28 2.8, Auto.tamron 105 2.5, Auto-tamron 135 2.8, Auto Tamron 200 3.5, Auto Tamron 300 5.6 Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4
Tokyo Koki:Tele-Tokina 135mm 2.8, Tele-Tokina 135mm 3.5 (brand kennex), Tele-Tokina 300 5.5.
Vivitar:Series 1 70-210 (Kiron)
Yashica:
Auto Yashinon-DX 50mm 1.7, Auto Yashinon-DX 50mm 2, Yashica ML 50mm 1.7, Yashica ML 50mm 2 |
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bluecove
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Location: Germany
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bluecove wrote:
Hi Everybody,
i've got the Nikkor 85/2.0 S/N 194xxx borrowed and i'm testing it on sunny days.  At F2 mine is very soft and purple. But at 5.6 it's a dream. Metering isn't easy, because from 5.6 ist jumps to 8 and then to 11 with big failure metering.
Both pictures taken with a 40D in 'Standard' picture style without color etc. adjustment. Just the whole picture and a 100% crop. Resized bicubic.
85/2 @ 2.0
85/2 @ 5.6
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Hi Everybody,
i've got the Nikkor 85/2.0 S/N 194xxx borrowed and i'm testing it on sunny days. At F2 mine is very soft and purple. But at 5.6 it's a dream. Metering isn't easy, because from 5.6 ist jumps to 8 and then to 11 with big failure metering.
Both pictures taken with a 40D in 'Standard' picture style without color etc. adjustment. Just the whole picture and a 100% crop. Resized bicubic.
85/2 @ 2.0
85/2 @ 5.6
Greetings,
bluecove |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome!
At F2 a nice portrait lens don't need to be tack sharp at F5.6 very sharp as sample shows! I think these are nice features.
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A G Photography
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Location: Bologna - Italy
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A G Photography wrote:
Isn't the Nikkor 85/2 a Sonnar in disguise?
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SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
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Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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