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tOfOO13
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 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:56 am Post subject: New to Manual Focus Lens. Need help. |
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tOfOO13 wrote:
Hi guys I'm currently looking for manual focus lenses for my canon 600D (APS-C sensor).
Its most confusing to me with all the different mounts and I do note that adaptors are not cheap.
People say FD lenses require a glass element and that will affect the image quality.
I'm just looking at Nikon's F-mount or the M42 mount, which seem to be more popular.
Do you have any other mounts to recommend?
I'm now looking for 50mm, 135mm and telephoto zooms/ primes. |
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hifisapi
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hifisapi wrote:
I dont know the answer to your question but what you need to find out is which lensmounts adapt to canon
EOS without any interference with the mirror AND which will focus to infinity after adapter without any glass
in the adapter.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Welcome !
You can use Nikon F, M42, Rollei QBM, Exakata, Olympus OM, Yashica/Contax, Tamron adaptall, Pentacon Six/Kiev 60 on your camera trouble free none of them require glass element like Canon FD.
Adapters are dirt cheap to Canon from above lists.
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
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Welcome !
You can use Nikon F, M42, Rollei QBM, Exakata, Olympus OM, Yashica/Contax, Tamron adaptall, Pentacon Six/Kiev 60 on your camera trouble free none of them require glass element like Canon FD.
Adapters are dirt cheap to Canon from above lists. |
And you can add Leica R to the list.
If you are just starting out, I'd stick to OM, Nikkor, M42, & C/Y till you get a handle on it all.
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l9magen
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l9magen wrote:
+1 to the list mentioned by Lightshow, noting that these lenses have more reliable adapters from a greater number of sellers, and of these, the OM lenses have the better price:performance ratio.
That said, I treasure my C/Y Zeiss glass above all others and use it exclusively on my 5D. I keep the OM, M42 and Nikkors on native camera mounts (OM-1, Bessaflex + SL706, and FE respectively).
Happy hunting, and good shooting when you find what you want.
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killwilly
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killwilly wrote:
Hello and welcome to the forum. I have a 450D and have recently bought a 7D, both of which work very well with my collection of M42 fit lenses. There are dozens for sale on eBay, you could also try charity shops. One of my favorite lenses is a Helios 58mm, bought for peanuts.
I would recommend a chipped adapter for your 600D, which will give you confirmation when focus has been achieved, they too can be bought off eBay quite cheap.
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martyn_bannister
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Welcome to the forum! Be aware that you may be on the first step of the road to Lens Buying Addiction (LBA)
+1 as above, look out for the old zenith bodies that came with the well respected "kit" Helios 44 M42 mount lens. If the only adapter you buy is a focus chipped M42 to EOS one you will find plenty of lenses to fit your digital body. Have fun, follow the recommendations on here and post some images!
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tOfOO13
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tOfOO13 wrote:
I think for now I will stick to the nikkor lenses. Any recommendations?  |
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hifisapi
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hifisapi wrote:
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Welcome !
You can use Nikon F, M42, Rollei QBM, Exakata, Olympus OM, Yashica/Contax, Tamron adaptall, Pentacon Six/Kiev 60 on your camera trouble free none of them require glass element like Canon FD.
Adapters are dirt cheap to Canon from above lists. |
Is this true with full frame canon eos bodies too or does it only apply to crop eos bodies?
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
Welcome!
Pentax K mount hasn't been mentioned yet. The only problem is the lens will be rotated slighty.
The 600D has an APS-C cropped sensor and smaller mirror, so please ignore all the remarks made about mirror interference. This does not apply to your camera.
Canon EOS cameras, especially the APS-C ones, can mount the widest range of MF lenses of all the DSLRs without glass adapters. It's easier to list the lenses you CAN'T use:
Minolta MC/MD
Canon FD
Fujica AX
Some Mamiya M42 lenses have problems with the aperture dial
Rangefinder lenses
There will be more I'm not sure about.
Please everyone add them to this list if you know them.
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SonicScot
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Welcome!
Pentax K mount hasn't been mentioned yet. The only problem is the lens will be rotated slighty.
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They also require some modification with a small hacksaw. 
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Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
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Welcome to the group - wave goodbye to your savings. 
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SonicScot
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
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Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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Nikonshooter
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Nikonshooter wrote:
I haven't been a member of this site for two month yet and have already spent $300. You're next.
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
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Welcome!
Pentax K mount hasn't been mentioned yet. The only problem is the lens will be rotated slighty.
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No, sorry, this isn't true. I use all my Pentax K mount lenses on my 400D. The modification is only needed for full frame cameras, which neither the OP or I have, so this off topic in this thread.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
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Welcome!
Pentax K mount hasn't been mentioned yet. The only problem is the lens will be rotated slighty.
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They also require some modification with a small hacksaw. |
No, sorry, this isn't true. I use all my Pentax K mount lenses on my 400D. The modification is only needed for full frame cameras, which neither the OP or I have, so this off topic in this thread. |
Well I have had two Pentax-k mount lenses and both had a lever protruding from the rear. When I went to mount them on my 7D the lever was clearly going to hit the inside of the camera, so I cut them off.
Maybe I was wrong and didn't need to do this but it certainly looked like I was about to damage the camera and I didn't feel like risking that..
I didn't just decide to cut the lever myself, I searched online for other people having the same problem and I found exactly that. The advice was to cut the lever, which I did (it was a cheap and rubbish lens).
This was over a year ago and I've avoided Pentax-k mount lenses ever since.
BTW how is it 'off-topic'? I'm discussing the topic which you started. 
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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DigiChromeEd
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
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Welcome!
Pentax K mount hasn't been mentioned yet. The only problem is the lens will be rotated slighty.
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They also require some modification with a small hacksaw. |
No, sorry, this isn't true. I use all my Pentax K mount lenses on my 400D. The modification is only needed for full frame cameras, which neither the OP or I have, so this off topic in this thread. |
Well I have had two Pentax-k mount lenses and both had a lever protruding from the rear. When I went to mount them on my 7D the lever was clearly going to hit the inside of the camera, so I cut them off.
Maybe I was wrong and didn't need to do this but it certainly looked like I was about to damage the camera and I didn't feel like risking that..
I didn't just decide to cut the lever myself, I searched online for other people having the same problem and I found exactly that. The advice was to cut the lever, which I did (it was a cheap and rubbish lens).
This was over a year ago and I've avoided Pentax-k mount lenses ever since.
BTW how is it 'off-topic'? I'm discussing the topic which you started. |
I've had the same experience as Gary. I have a Canon EOS 10D and I can't mount my SMC Pentax-M 1.7/50 with adaptor as the lever fouls the inside of the camera body. I use this lens solely with my NEX as I don't want to modify my lens. I've never owned or used a Canon 400D but it obviously has a different layout to the 7D or the 10D. It would be interesting to know which other crop sensor Canons can and cannot accept Pentax K mount lenses without modification.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
Absolutely Edgar, it would be good to know which cameras can/can't use this mount. I don't have any Pentax-K lenses at the moment so I can't try them on my old 300D, but they sure won't fit the 7D without hitting the inside of the mount.
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Currently active gear....
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Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
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| The modification is only needed for full frame cameras, which neither the OP or I have, so this off topic in this thread. |
BTW how is it 'off-topic'? I'm discussing the topic which you started. |
 The OP asked which lenses will fit his 600D. As far as my experience goes with the 400D, which is an older version of the same model, all my PK lenses work OK. But it's true I didn't know that about the 7D, thanks.
As for off topic, what I meant is that any mention of lenses needing modification to work on FF cameras is confusing to the OP and not an answer to his question.
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SonicScot
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
I seem to remember, from reading about adapters, that some EOS cameras have a "switch" at about 10 o'clock inside the mount. Could that be the problems with the 7D & 10D? BTW, now we are really OT!!!
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| I seem to remember, from reading about adapters, that some EOS cameras have a "switch" at about 10 o'clock inside the mount. Could that be the problems with the 7D & 10D? BTW, now we are really OT!!! |
Not with the 10D, Peter. Pentax K mount lenses are impossible to mount without modification, unless you use a short extension tube, but then you lose infinity focus of course.
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tOfOO13
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tOfOO13 wrote:
Guys thanks so much for the help im getting a much clearer picture. Will settle for the Nikon F-mount and the M42 as its more popular and there is a bigger range |
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