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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 pm Post subject: new 28mm finders |
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philslizzy wrote:
I'm sure I read that new optical finders for 28mm and 35mm were coming out of China. The 7Artisans costing about $60. I cant find them anywhere. can someone help?
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7588 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: new 28mm finders |
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calvin83 wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
I'm sure I read that new optical finders for 28mm and 35mm were coming out of China. The 7Artisans costing about $60. I cant find them anywhere. can someone help?
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You can find them in their shop or ebay.
https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/viewfinder-28-21mm _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: new 28mm finders |
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philslizzy wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
philslizzy wrote: |
I'm sure I read that new optical finders for 28mm and 35mm were coming out of China. The 7Artisans costing about $60. I cant find them anywhere. can someone help?
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You can find them in their shop or ebay.
https://ttartisan.myshopify.com/products/viewfinder-28-21mm |
Thank you. It was tt Artisan. Thats great.
they look good value, classic ones can be ridiculously expensive. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
are these 28mm and 21mm full frame finders? Samples shown on ttartisan web site only show them on crop frame cameras. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7588 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:51 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
are these 28mm and 21mm full frame finders? Samples shown on ttartisan web site only show them on crop frame cameras. |
28mm and 21mm is the length of the finder, not the lens. Leica M9 is a full frame camera. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
philslizzy wrote: |
are these 28mm and 21mm full frame finders? Samples shown on ttartisan web site only show them on crop frame cameras. |
28mm and 21mm is the length of the finder, not the lens. Leica M9 is a full frame camera. |
I'm not sure what 'length of the finder' means. I know a M9 is full frame. I need to know of these finders will cover a 28mm and a 21mm lens on a full frame film camera, there is no information about that anywhere and ttArtisan are in no hurry to reply.
The finders are relatively cheap and well made, I'd buy both of them but don't want to have them sent from China and find out that they only cover 21mm & 28mm lenses on crop (equal to 42mm and 31.5mm).
Ads say they are suitable for M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 M8 M9 and Ricoh a mix of crop and full frame. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11067 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
philslizzy wrote: |
are these 28mm and 21mm full frame finders? Samples shown on ttartisan web site only show them on crop frame cameras. |
28mm and 21mm is the length of the finder, not the lens. Leica M9 is a full frame camera. |
I'm not sure what 'length of the finder' means. I know a M9 is full frame. I need to know of these finders will cover a 28mm and a 21mm lens on a full frame film camera, there is no information about that anywhere and ttArtisan are in no hurry to reply.
The finders are relatively cheap and well made, I'd buy both of them but don't want to have them sent from China and find out that they only cover 21mm & 28mm lenses on crop (equal to 42mm and 31.5mm).
Ads say they are suitable for M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 M8 M9 and Ricoh a mix of crop and full frame. |
View through the finder is same as with that focal length lens on FF camera. 28mm finder shows same view through FF camera with 28mm lens. 21mm shows same view as 31.5-33.6mm lens on crop camera.
These would be most useful with lens set parfocal; not for focusing! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7588 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
philslizzy wrote: |
are these 28mm and 21mm full frame finders? Samples shown on ttartisan web site only show them on crop frame cameras. |
28mm and 21mm is the length of the finder, not the lens. Leica M9 is a full frame camera. |
I'm not sure what 'length of the finder' means. I know a M9 is full frame. I need to know of these finders will cover a 28mm and a 21mm lens on a full frame film camera, there is no information about that anywhere and ttArtisan are in no hurry to reply.
The finders are relatively cheap and well made, I'd buy both of them but don't want to have them sent from China and find out that they only cover 21mm & 28mm lenses on crop (equal to 42mm and 31.5mm).
Ads say they are suitable for M3 M4 M5 M6 M7 M8 M9 and Ricoh a mix of crop and full frame. |
I am pretty sure they will cover 21mm & 28mm full frame as they make these for their own Leica M mount lenses. You can buy later when reviews are out. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
thank you for your answers, I heard no reply from TTArtisans, but found someone with a 28 and he confirmed it's full frame _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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europanorama
Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 128
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:28 am Post subject: forget the cheapest on ebay from china |
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europanorama wrote:
i have got one, the cheapest noname from china. diopter is totally off. cannot be used
same for the dora goodman zone z1 crap-viewfinder. _________________ mpa |
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