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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject: Moon shots with different combos Tamron SP 500 F8 |
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Olivier wrote:
Hello,
I did some moon shots in december and tried 3 different combos on the Olympus Pen E-P2.
I chose the oly m4/3 format to gain in range in comparison with the 5D MkII.
I mounted the Canon EF 70-200 F4L IS USM + Kenko extender x1.4, which makes at 200mm an FF equivalent 560mm.
I also mounted the Mirror lens Tamron SP 500 F8 (55B) + Tamron SP 01F doubler, FF equivalent to 2000mm.
And I used the Tamron SP 500 F8 without doubler, equivalent to 1000mm.
Shooting conditions : the lens was blocked on car Windows.
The Pen E-P2 has stabilisation.
The IS stabilisation on the Canon doesn't work on the Olympus.
The JPG photos were developed in Canon's software Digital Photo Professional. They could be improved more with Lightroom.
Here are the combos, the full size results and then cropped :
1/ Pen E-P2 + Canon EF 70-200 F4 L IS USM + Kenko extender x1.4. ISO 400, 1/200s.
Image full size
cropped
2/ Pen E-P2 + Tamron SP 500 F8 + Tamron SP 01F doubler. ISO 640, 1/200s.
Image fullsize
cropped
3/Pen E-P2 + Tamron SP 500 F8 without doubler. ISO 400, 1/160s.
Image full size
cropped
Conclusion :
The Tamron SP doubler degrades the image.
The Tamron SP 500 F8 gives a quite good result.
The Canon EF 70-200 F4 L IS USM + Kenko x1.4 gives also a quit good result, even better than the Tamron SP500 when cropped, but not suitable for large prints. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Olivier, when using the Canon EF zoom with your EOS-M43 adapter, can you only use the lens at f4? _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
Olivier, when using the Canon EF zoom with your EOS-M43 adapter, can you only use the lens at f4? |
Yes Edgar, only F4.
With the extender x1.4, that makes f5.6. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:44 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
A nice comparision Olivier,My favorite image is the Tamron with out the doubler .The Canon is not bad either ,it is a nice looking lens, not that that means much in this test.
Which lens was the hardest to focus with? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
mo wrote: |
A nice comparision Olivier,My favorite image is the Tamron with out the doubler .The Canon is not bad either ,it is a nice looking lens, not that that means much in this test.
Which lens was the hardest to focus with? |
The Tamron without doubler is less contrasty and maybe more pleasant to the eye.
I cropped again the Canon's picture and reloaded it to have approx the same size as the Tamron's picture.
That changes the look and I find the Canon more clear, neat and precise.
To answer your question, I would say that both Tamron without doubler and Canon are easy to focus because their focusing rings are very smooth (you know what I mean as you have the Tamron ).
With the doubler, that's difficult because any mm on the focusing ring changes the focusing point and it is darker (equivalent to 2000mm F16...).
To be on focus, the Olympus Pen E-P2 has a magnifying screen you can set to x7 or x10. It helps a lot, and I use an EVF wich is very good too, instead of aiming with the back screen. I need my eye to look in a viewfinder and I find it gives me more stability, wich is needed in such shots. I have to mention that the magnifying screen was not so helpful with the 500+doubler : too shaky _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:29 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks,
It's funny, even with the Canon's crop image being the same size and does appear sharper. To my eye the the Tamron crop has a smoother "look" across the moons surface (perhaps the softer image works better than than the sharp image? ) . I do like the Tamrons smooth focusing grip but I wish i had the Canon lens to play with and a Canon camera.
The Olympus Pen sounds like a great little camera, and it did a good job managing these lenses.(I acknowledge the photographer did a great job as well focusing ) _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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bernhardas
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:29 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Bernahrdas.
I was surprised by the quality of the Canon + Kenko x1.4.
It's impressive when you think that it is much more cropped than the Tamron.
Moïra, I understand you like more the Tamron softness. It's more artistic and suits your mood quite well, our downunder cherished lady. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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