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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3952 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Another way to identify the eight lens version is to count the reflexes. Close the aperture to f/16 and count the reflexes on the front group only:
* If there are seven reflexes, it's the eight lens version
* If there are five reflexes, it's the seven lens version
CAUTION!
* two of the seven reflexes of the eight lens version are very close to each other
* one of the reflexes of the eight lens version is a bit difficult to spot: the flat cemented surface reflects only if the angle between light source and your eye is correct (like and ordinary flat mirror!). The reflected image appears to be large in size.
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Jcline46
Joined: 01 Dec 2017 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Jcline46 wrote:
Auto Miranda EC 50mm 1.4 @1.4, Sony A7 ii. The more I use this lens, the more I like it. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Jcline46 wrote: |
Auto Miranda EC 50mm 1.4 @1.4, Sony A7 ii. The more I use this lens, the more I like it. |
Quoted so pic shows. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Ist post can't contain pics. You're good to go now. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Jcline46
Joined: 01 Dec 2017 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Jcline46 wrote:
Thank you! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Jcline46 wrote: |
Auto Miranda EC 50mm 1.4 @1.4, Sony A7 ii. The more I use this lens, the more I like it. |
It is a beautiful study.
The lens is a very good one, and you have used it well.
Tom |
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Jcline46
Joined: 01 Dec 2017 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jcline46 wrote:
Miranda 50mm EC 1.4 @1.4, Sony A7 ii 1/60 sec. handheld. |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 841
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:13 am Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
vivaldibow wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
Superb lens.
Back element is completely flat - ala Tomioka ....... so I wonder..... ?
Anyway here is a shot at full aperture.
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My 50mm f/1.4 Auto Miranda (not E or EC) has a 46mm filter thread and the rear element is flat (completely flat to my eyes). It came from a Sensorex C camera. From Sensorex C's user manual, the last element of this 8/6 lens has a slight curvature, while the 7/5 50mm f/1.4 lens's rear element is flat. I am confused. It could be because the slight curvature is almost flat to my eyes. |
Yes, it can be deceptive.
If you really want to see if it is flat, hold a piece of paper on its edge across it and up against the light. Any curvature will show at the ends.
And, my eyes may have been seeing flatness where there was slight curvature. so perhaps my eyes are the problem
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That's a good trick. I tried it but found the rear element is just a little inside the mount so it is hard to tell. Anyways, I really like the lens.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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The bokeh is quite splendid as you have shown here.
Lovely
Tom |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Also at widest aperture from this lens.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
And at f2.8
The image has been square cropped
Click image for better detail, then click again to enlarge
Tom
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 841
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Also at widest aperture from this lens.
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Both are good shots. Wide open performance is very good. My copy has oil on the blades and they don't always close down the f8/11/16, but I can live with it. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
A quick shot this afternoon.
Not much colour left in the garden, so very little subject matter
Tom
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 841
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
A quick shot this afternoon.
Not much colour left in the garden, so very little subject matter
Tom
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Nice. Is it still the African daisy? Here in northern hemisphere, flowers are fading as well.
My Auto Miranda and Miranda E 50mm f/1.8 arrived; Miranda E 28mm and 35mm, both long version arrived as well. Perhaps we should consolidate Miranda posts into a single thread? Don't know how easy that would be. The 28mm long version seems to be an 8 element design. I'll share the optical scheme later.
I inadvertently found on my desk a Soligor 25mm f/2.8 preset, with the serial number starting with m. Presumably it was made by Miranda. However, Miranda's own 25mm f/2.8 seems to be a longer lens. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
A quick shot this afternoon.
Not much colour left in the garden, so very little subject matter
Tom
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Nice. Is it still the African daisy? Here in northern hemisphere, flowers are fading as well.
My Auto Miranda and Miranda E 50mm f/1.8 arrived; Miranda E 28mm and 35mm, both long version arrived as well. Perhaps we should consolidate Miranda posts into a single thread? Don't know how easy that would be. The 28mm long version seems to be an 8 element design. I'll share the optical scheme later.
I inadvertently found on my desk a Soligor 25mm f/2.8 preset, with the serial number starting with m. Presumably it was made by Miranda. However, Miranda's own 25mm f/2.8 seems to be a longer lens. |
Oh, the daisy, I am not sure. It is hardy and needs little attention.
As for Miranda lenses, yes, maybe a single thread would be good. I do not know how to manage that.
The 28 and 35 longs are both excellent
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:02 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
A quick shot this afternoon.
Not much colour left in the garden, so very little subject matter
Tom
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Nice. Is it still the African daisy? Here in northern hemisphere, flowers are fading as well.
My Auto Miranda and Miranda E 50mm f/1.8 arrived; Miranda E 28mm and 35mm, both long version arrived as well. Perhaps we should consolidate Miranda posts into a single thread? Don't know how easy that would be. The 28mm long version seems to be an 8 element design. I'll share the optical scheme later.
I inadvertently found on my desk a Soligor 25mm f/2.8 preset, with the serial number starting with m. Presumably it was made by Miranda. However, Miranda's own 25mm f/2.8 seems to be a longer lens. |
This is my best answer. The Auto Miranda 25mm f2.8 was released in;
1st version, arm which has external aperture control, clickless aperture
2nd version with internal aperture control. This version has click stops.
3rd version was the E.
This version has click stops.
Was not released in EC.
Now there was also a Soligor Miranda version which was identical too the Miranda version.
There were also Miranda lenses released as M code under the Soligor name.
Look at your lens and compare aperture markings to a Miranda lens. They are identical.
Why this is a short version not a long version I can't answer.
The long version is a 8/7 design. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 841
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
walter g wrote: |
vivaldibow wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
A quick shot this afternoon.
Not much colour left in the garden, so very little subject matter
Tom
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Nice. Is it still the African daisy? Here in northern hemisphere, flowers are fading as well.
My Auto Miranda and Miranda E 50mm f/1.8 arrived; Miranda E 28mm and 35mm, both long version arrived as well. Perhaps we should consolidate Miranda posts into a single thread? Don't know how easy that would be. The 28mm long version seems to be an 8 element design. I'll share the optical scheme later.
I inadvertently found on my desk a Soligor 25mm f/2.8 preset, with the serial number starting with m. Presumably it was made by Miranda. However, Miranda's own 25mm f/2.8 seems to be a longer lens. |
This is my best answer. The Auto Miranda 25mm f2.8 was released in;
1st version, arm which has external aperture control, clickless aperture
2nd version with internal aperture control. This version has click stops.
3rd version was the E.
This version has click stops.
Was not released in EC.
Now there was also a Soligor Miranda version which was identical too the Miranda version.
There were also Miranda lenses released as M code under the Soligor name.
Look at your lens and compare aperture markings to a Miranda lens. They are identical.
Why this is a short version not a long version I can't answer.
The long version is a 8/7 design. |
Thanks. Mine is a Soligor lens by Miranda with M code. It is a preset lens with aperture mechanism at the rear end, much like the Miranda clickless design. The other lenses
in this T mount series which I have (28mm, 35, 105mm) are probably made by Tokina.
Here is the link to the optical scheme of all these Miranda lenses.
https://pacificrimcamera.com/rl/01709/01709.pdf |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Here is one of my shots from above with some post processing of light levels.
It gives a better idea of the definition that this lens is capable of
Tom
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2965 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 4:46 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Anyone know who made the 8 element lens for Miranda. I just got a lovely copy on whaat seems a fully working sensorex camera in very good condition. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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