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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
IMHO we are talking about a different subjects here. |
In some ways perhaps we are.
I do not dispute your findings at scaled down level. I agree with you there.
I'm at odds with scaling down to some Ultra/Full/Plain HD screen and claiming no one ever uses zoom, so based on that, pictures should be considered identical.
For interactive digital consumption devices instant zoom is very much within "normal viewing circumstances".
The lenses do not even come into this, I never said anything about the lenses.
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Coming back to the OP's topic: The sensor size is the least important factor for the final image quality if pictures are taken with good quality lenses at low ISO settings. |
Again, we are in full agreement. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/ |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:00 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Memetph, Aidaho, Tb_a, thank you for the discussion. That sounds higly interesting. Thomas, the comparison of NEX/A7 with Ricoh in favour of the latter is also something I completely ignored. Very curious about it.
That would be great to see some crops which serve also well for pixel peeping. Not in terms of proof, as it is sometimes claimed, but in terms of illustration. I find this comparison between sensors of great use and interest which might be satisfied as for now many of us have two or more cameras. |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:24 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
That would be great to see some crops which serve also well for pixel peeping. |
PM sent. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Alex convinced me to make my examples available for everybody:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1g8aDFnJdLnusTdFIJ9ZWZyQLYPEagWYD?usp=sharing
Please help yourself. The names of the files are selfexplaining.
BTW, all shot with Rodenstock APO-Rodagon 50mm/F2.8 at F5.6 in RAW at lowest ISO on tripod. No PP like sharpening, just converted in LR6. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you, Thomas! I find your comparison very interesting.
It looks like both Sony render details a bit sharper, while the whole scene more evenly lighted and in some way flatter. The Ricoh's sensor gives to the scene a more natural pop-up. |
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