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AlexWicks
 Joined: 16 May 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:21 pm Post subject: Minolta MD 28mm f/2.8 - thoughts? |
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AlexWicks wrote:
So i got a Minolta 28mm f/2.8 MD recently for £15, late MD version with 49mm filter thread. I haven't recieved my adapter yet so I can't test it - does anyone have this lens and if so, how do you find it? Samples would be nice too if possible, and once I recieve my adapter I will post some soon. |
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4288 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
The MD-III version of the Minolta 2.8/28mm exists in two different versions:
* 7-lens
* 5-lens
From outside they are difficult to distinguish; performance-wise the older 7-lens version (which was made as MC-X, MD-II and MD-II as well) is slightly better:
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/330-nex-5n-und-28mm-objektive
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miran
 Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
I have it and I think it's an ok lens for the money. Not really special in any way but good enough for most purposes. Here's my flickr album for this lens, but it doesn't contain many photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8800601@N04/sets/72157645460465821 _________________ my flickr stream |
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AlexWicks
 Joined: 16 May 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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AlexWicks wrote:
Thanks guys! Great pictures too miran, seems like the lens is quite capable!
So I got bored and decided to "freelens" with it, with a metabones EF adapter mounted onto the a7s:
(IS04000 btw, so maybe not the best representation of quality but still quite good IMO) _________________ Cameras: Sony a7s | EOS 400D | Praktica MTL3, LTL3, LLC | FED 5B
Lenses: Helios 44-2 & 44-3 | Indulstar 61 LZ | Pentacon 35mm f2.8 | Pentacon 28mm f2.8 | Minolta 28mm f2.8 |
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listera
 Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 126 Location: Ankara
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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listera wrote:
If wonder which version your MD is, this page may help. Hint: presence of the thin ring over the frontmost element.
http://home.kpn.nl/dielpeet/minolta/minolta-28mm-lenses.htm
I have the 7/7 version. It produces photos with nice background at close distances. Stopped down a bit, results are not bad. And Minolta colors are always with you.
I like this photo very much, maybe more than I should as it is the second time I am sharing it here (sorry)
Foliage
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/97103793@N06/ |
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NACEOD
Joined: 04 Jan 2015 Posts: 12 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:44 am Post subject: |
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NACEOD wrote:
I just converted the Celtic version to a direct Canon EOS mount. I took it to the Grand Canyon earlier this month. Here's a panorama stitched together using Microsoft Image Composite Editor. It is 10 photos, 5 across and 2 high. Not the best quality but fun to use.
Here's one of the center photos used in the panorama.
Here's a 100% crop from the center of the above panorama and photo. The distance to this point in the photo from where I was standing is about 3 miles.
I took the photos in the middle of the day under the blazing Arizona sun. I had a polarizing filter on to cut through the haze and smoke from a controlled burn in the forest that was drifting into the canyon. The photos were taken using a Canon 50D at 1/800 sec at f11. I also used a tripod and delayed shutter release. I wish I had brought along my Canon EF 28-135mm to compare.
I'm pretty happy with the results for a lens I purchased for $5.00. |
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WNG555
 Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:39 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
^ $5?!! Oy! Lucky dog!
Killer photos folks!
I also have the MD Celtic version with 55mm filter, same lens as the MD W Rokkor-X. 7 elements.
It has excellent resolution, and vibrant colors thanks to the MD coating.
It's one of my top favorite 28mm lenses. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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tf
 Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 162
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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tf wrote:
As it known, the late Minolta MD (New MD, MD III) has a two versions of 28mm F2.8 lens - one is 7 elements in 7 groups, another is 5 elements in 5 groups
Here the review with tests for older 7x7
Here the review with tests for newer 5x5 (I met the opinion somewhere that the autofocused Minolta AF lens has the same scheme, but I have no confirmation)
And all four Minolta MD 28mm lens comparison "head to head" |
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sergun
 Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 295 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Minolta MD 28mm f2.8 for the money a very good lens (low ca, as do many other Minolta lenses) I have a copy to sell because he is much "lathering" on one side.
A7R + Minolta Md 28mm f2.8
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4288 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:42 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
^ $5?!! Oy! Lucky dog!
Killer photos folks!
I also have the MD Celtic version with 55mm filter, same lens as the MD W Rokkor-X. 7 elements.
It has excellent resolution, and vibrant colors thanks to the MD coating.
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The Minolta Celtic lenses have only single layer coatings; for the "real Minolta coating" you must go for a real MC/MD lens
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Steakface
Joined: 19 Oct 2017 Posts: 18 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Steakface wrote:
I have this lens, 7/7 MD-III version, I only find it OK. Center is nice and sharp but edges and corners never really get there. My copy is its sharpest at f/5.6, diffraction degrades image quality at f/8. I find it performs better on 24m-pix full frame than it does on 16m-pix APS-C.
I have an MD-I 28mm f/3.5 5/5 on the way, it should be a bit better on the sides but we will see!
EDIT: Got the MD-I 28mm f/3.5 5/5. It's sharper in the center at all aperture lengths but corners are worse. I'm wondering if Minolta changed the glass from the MC-X 5/5 version. Oh well, still a good lens. _________________ http://northernwintersky.net/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernwintersky/
Film Cameras: Minolta SRT-Super, Pentax MX
Digital Camera: Fuji X-T3
Most Used Lenses on Digital: MD 50mm f/2, Pentax K 55mm f/1.8, Pentax M 50mm f/1.7
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4288 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Here's a link to my comparison of all the Minolta MC/MD 28mm lens designs:
* 3.5/28mm (MC-I [7/7], 67mm filter diameter)
* 3.5/28mm (MC-I/MC-II/MC-X, [7/7], 55mm filter diameter)
* 3.5/28mm (MC-X, MD-I/MD-II/MD-III, [5/5])
* 2.5/28mm (MC-I, MD-II, MC-X)
* 2/28mm (MC/MD-I/MD-II)
* 2/28mm (MD-III)
* 2.8/28mm (MC/MD-I/MD-II/MD-III, [7/7])
* 2.8/28mm (MD-III, [5/5])
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/506-minolta-mc-md-28mm-lenses-on-24mp-full-frame
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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vivaldibow
 Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 843
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vivaldibow wrote:
Hi Stephan,
Is there a way to tell if the MD III is a 5/5 or 7/7? Thanks. |
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tb_a
 Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:37 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
Is there a way to tell if the MD III is a 5/5 or 7/7? Thanks. |
The front name ring looks slightly different; i.e. the 5/5 version shows an extra inner ring and this is missing on the 7/7 version.
Furthermore the serial of the 7/7 starts with 8xxxxxx and the newer 5/5 with 9xxxxxx.
There are contradictory informations as to which is the better version. I have both but didn't compare them directly yet; i.e. I don't know.  _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Alun Thomas
 Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 682 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
Is there a way to tell if the MD III is a 5/5 or 7/7? Thanks. |
Another difference is that the IR dot on the depth of focus scale is in ever so slightly a different place for the two different models. On both models it is between the F4 and F8 mark on the right hand side of the scale, but on the 5/5 model it is slightly closer to F8, and on the 7/7 model it is slightly closer to the F4 mark. You need to compare photos of both to see what is a very small difference, but it is quite handy once you know, as the serial number is not always shown in listings. |
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lumens pixel
 Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 949
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:30 am Post subject: Second thoughts |
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lumens pixel wrote:
I have been very unhappy with a Minolta MD 28 7/7 I bought long time ago and I got rid of.
I bought since the newer computation 5/5 and have been very happy with for landscape use.
I also opened my purse to buy the MDIII 2,0 version, which is excellent, but expensive.
Two remarks concerning the 5/5 version: some CA (quite easily dealt with in post processing) and underwhelming performance near minimum focus distance. I noticed that lately since my main use of 28mm is landscape.
Out of curiosity and for a very good price I bought a MDIII 28 2,8 7/7 and tested it, not expecting much. It is an interesting lens and I must say my copy is well centered and assembled which was certainly not the case of the first copy I bought (which was a MD I or MDII).
Is it better than the 5/5 for landscapes? No. Resolution is quite close, minimally inferior in some parts of the frame and a tiny better on other parts and I would say the 5/5 is marginally better but you would not notice that if you close half a stop more and add microcontrast in post. So quite manageable. However lateral CA is superiorly managed by the 7/7 and that might appeal to some.
The biggest difference between the 5/5 and the 7/7 to the advantage of the latter is short distance resolution. The 7/7 delivers results that are very homogeneous at long and short distance where the 5/5 crumbles.
So, if you are not in the market for the excellent MDIII 28 2,0 and wish to use a 28mm on a wide range of distances, there is something quite interesting in the 7/7 lens.
I do not know if computation modifications occurred between the 7/7 generations so my comments only apply to the MDIII version and based on a good copy.
I finally compared the 7/7 with another excellent 28: the Canon nFD 28 2,8 which I consider as a sharpness king, (equal to the Minolta MDIII 2,0 for landscape use) provided you catch a good copy (had to buy three...). The nFD is slightly ahead at infinity but again with a half stop difference the Minolta is not humiliated with some adjustments in post. But the Minolta is slightly better at very short distance.
So an interesting lens overall that deserves more love than what I usually read on the web (and to which I have alas contributed).
Justice for all. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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gaeger
 Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 756 Location: Brier, Wash.
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
I have a later version of this lens and it is absolutely fantastic. I use it on my Minolta film cameras -- its part of a great small kit for traveling: 28mm, 50mm f1.7, and 100mm f2.5. Here's the 28mm in action:
 _________________ Nikon: Bunch of stuff
Minolta: Bunch of stuff
Petri & Zenobia: Less stuff
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lumens pixel
 Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 949
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Is this converted negative or slide? Very nice job on the highlights. I remember negative being quite tolerant to highlights. Nice pics and exposure. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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jamaeolus
 Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 3022 Location: Eugene
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jamaeolus wrote:
 _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4288 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Second thoughts |
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stevemark wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
I have been very unhappy with a Minolta MD 28 7/7 I bought long time ago and I got rid of.
I bought since the newer computation 5/5 and have been very happy with for landscape use. |
That means your first [7/7] version must have been defective. I have all four major MF versions of the [7/7] Minolta 2.8/28 (MC-X, MD-I, MD-II, MD-III) plus the [5/5] MD-III (same as AF-I, btw.). I consider the [7/7] the slightly better lens (especially in the corners).
lumens pixel wrote: |
Two remarks concerning the 5/5 version: some CA (quite easily dealt with in post processing) and underwhelming performance near minimum focus distance. I noticed that lately since my main use of 28mm is landscape. |
I didn't know the latter since I only test lenses at infinity - thanks for that information!
lumens pixel wrote: |
Out of curiosity and for a very good price I bought a MDIII 28 2,8 7/7 and tested it, not expecting much. It is an interesting lens and I must say my copy is well centered and assembled which was certainly not the case of the first copy I bought (which was a MD I or MDII). |
Maybe someone had dismantled your first copy before? (or even reversed one of the inner lensses by error??)
lumens pixel wrote: |
Is it better than the 5/5 for landscapes? ... However lateral CA is superiorly managed by the 7/7 and that might appeal to some.
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The biggest difference between the 5/5 and the 7/7 to the advantage of the latter is short distance resolution. The 7/7 delivers results that are very homogeneous at long and short distance where the 5/5 crumbles. So, if you are not in the market for the excellent MDIII 28 2,0 and wish to use a 28mm on a wide range of distances, there is something quite interesting in the 7/7 lens. |
Yep, agreed. That makes much more sense now!
lumens pixel wrote: |
I finally compared the 7/7 with another excellent 28: the Canon nFD 28 2,8 which I consider as a sharpness king, (equal to the Minolta MDIII 2,0 for landscape use) provided you catch a good copy (had to buy three...). |
It seems you never tried the Pentax-K 3.5/28mm ... for landscape purposes it is clearly superior to all my other vintage 28mm lenses including the said Canon as well as the Zeiss CY Distagon 2.8/28mm! Well, the Pentax-K s pretty large, it's slow, and it's a sophisticated [8/7] construction.
Again: thanks for sharing your experience!
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Ultrapix
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Ultrapix wrote:
I had a number of Minolta 28mm a while ago in my hands, and I checked them in a quick, non scientific test.
28mm 2.8 7 elements
28mm 2.5
28mm 3.5 MD II
28mm 3.5 MD III
I kept the 2.5 (genuine vintage rendering, very good on center and mid-frame area, superb building), and the 3.5 II (slightly worse corners against the III, but much better mid-frame, and better made). The 2.8 is a good all round performer, I already had another sample, same IQ, not something to die for, but solid and honest lens. |
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lumens pixel
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lumens pixel wrote:
Ultrapix wrote: |
I had a number of Minolta 28mm a while ago in my hands, and I checked them in a quick, non scientific test.
28mm 2.8 7 elements
28mm 2.5
28mm 3.5 MD II
28mm 3.5 MD III
I kept the 2.5 (genuine vintage rendering, very good on center and mid-frame area, superb building), and the 3.5 II (slightly worse corners against the III, but much better mid-frame, and better made). The 2.8 is a good all round performer, I already had another sample, same IQ, not something to die for, but solid and honest lens. |
I suggest that when we comment on our lenses we specify (me first) on what camera the opinion is based. Format and sensor could lead to significant differences of appreciation. (I am a Sony A7II user). _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Ultrapix
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Ultrapix wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Ultrapix wrote: |
I had a number of Minolta 28mm a while ago in my hands, and I checked them in a quick, non scientific test.
28mm 2.8 7 elements
28mm 2.5
28mm 3.5 MD II
28mm 3.5 MD III
I kept the 2.5 (genuine vintage rendering, very good on center and mid-frame area, superb building), and the 3.5 II (slightly worse corners against the III, but much better mid-frame, and better made). The 2.8 is a good all round performer, I already had another sample, same IQ, not something to die for, but solid and honest lens. |
I suggest that when we comment on our lenses we specify (me first) on what camera the opinion is based. Format and sensor could lead to significant differences of appreciation. (I am a Sony A7II user). |
I agree, I use Canon EOS R and Leica SL (601), my "test" was done with Leica |
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gaeger
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gaeger wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Is this converted negative or slide? |
Those are converted Fujifilm 200 negatives. The scanning was done by Supercolor Imaging in Laguna Beach, Calif. These scans are not super hi res, but Henrik Shahmirian and his guys there do a great job. _________________ Nikon: Bunch of stuff
Minolta: Bunch of stuff
Petri & Zenobia: Less stuff
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lumens pixel
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Here's an illustration of the use of Minolta MD III 28 2,8 7/7. Raw cooked to taste. F4,5.
Gare de Paris la Défense by lumens pixel, sur Flickr _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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