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Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 1:1.2 f=58mm on my Sony a7
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 1:1.2 f=58mm on my Sony a7 Reply with quote
I believe this lens has a bit of a cult following, so couldn't resist when I saw it at a dealer.

Some quick snaps on my mini full framer:

f/1.2



f/2



f/1.2



Images come out of the camera with a very warm tint, I had to "cool" the portrait Shocked

Sharpness is reasonable wide open (The Nikkor 55/1.2 is better), but the bokeh is woah!

full version of image 3 (click for larger size)



PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like the close bokeh, but I'm not keen on the distance bokeh. The house, and the trees to a certain extent, looks odd somehow. But the daffodils, in both shots, look very good. Ans it is sharp. Maybe I could could get used to it. Wink


PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lloydy wrote:
I like the close bokeh, but I'm not keen on the distance bokeh. The house, and the trees to a certain extent, looks odd somehow. But the daffodils, in both shots, look very good. Ans it is sharp. Maybe I could could get used to it. Wink


I agree about the bokeh, it's almost mirror lens weird Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try it stopped down a click or two and it will smooth right out.
Congrats on the 1.2


PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a lens I'm interested in, I'm on a Rokkor roll. But the distance bokeh did surprise me, it's very un-rokkor like to me. And doing a bit of googling the lens has a stellar reputation for its smooth bokeh, and this thread here -

http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-mc-rokkor-pg-112-f58mm-t47324.html

is what I'd have expected, well - hoped for, with my lack of knowledge about this lens.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This lens shines at f2 where the bokeh gets super smooth at the same time as the lens sharpens up considerably. Wide open this lens is useably sharp but the bokeh can be busy.

Also remember that most pictures you will find on the net are taken with APS-C size sensors, not FF.

Some more samples by me, on a Sony a900 FF: http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-mc-rokkor-pg-58-1-2-on-ff-sony-a900-freezing-cold-t55119,highlight,%2Brokkor.html


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know of one that is for sale at the moment and is underpriced, and will struggle to sell as it is not described correcly BIN at £180
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Minota-MD-Rokkor-50mm-F-1-2-F1-2-MF-lens-EXC-Japan-/271431948334?pt=Camera_Lenses&clk_rvr_id=608568908004


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
eddieitman wrote:
I know of one that is for sale at the moment and is underpriced, and will struggle to sell as it is not described correcly BIN at £180
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Minota-MD-Rokkor-50mm-F-1-2-F1-2-MF-lens-EXC-Japan-/271431948334?pt=Camera_Lenses&clk_rvr_id=608568908004


That is the 50/1.2 not the 58/1.2

Nevertheless a fine lens at a good price. The 50/1.2 is actually sharper and more contrasty than the 58/1.2 but the bokeh can be harsher. The 58/1.2 is the more sought after lens.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lol that did not take long to sell with me posting it, so who was the lucky buyer, I would have liked it for myself, but could not afford this month.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bokeh I find quite odd, surprisingly, after all this lens is so very famous for it. Sharpness surprised me to the upside though.
you guys will know it, but to mention that the MC Rokkor-PG f1.4/50 Rokkor that sells for a fraction is said to have the same / similar optical construction and bokeh. does anyone here own both and can confirm?


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes,they are nearly identical,though 58/1.2 looks a bit more "special".


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This lens is one of my favourites. I rather like its rendering, but I must admit it doesnt look too good in that sample you've shown. A few o my samples:

first 2 with Sony A77



and a850


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great samples, particularly the first two Smile Can you remember what apertures they were shot at? I'm wondering if the bokeh is better when used for closer portraits...


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Great samples, particularly the first two Smile Can you remember what apertures they were shot at? I'm wondering if the bokeh is better when used for closer portraits...


Those were wide-open. I have to say even the subject(s) were boring on the a850, the lens is much better on fullframe Smile


PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RTI wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Great samples, particularly the first two Smile Can you remember what apertures they were shot at? I'm wondering if the bokeh is better when used for closer portraits...


Those were wide-open. I have to say even the subject(s) were boring on the a850, the lens is much better on fullframe Smile


Very Happy Very Happy

I'm still messing around with this lens, so shot a couple of dribbley baby shots at f/1.2 and then f/2, looks OK I think.



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