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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1609
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 9:56 am Post subject: Micro Nikkor-P.C 3.5/55 vs Macro-Hexanon 3.5/55 |
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alex ph wrote:
I happened to compare two macro lenses, both well reputed. Put on Sony Nex, some detail is noted in the chart. You may click on the image to see it in larger resolution.
The results look really close.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10688 Location: California
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I want to say the center images are swapped. The white balance on first pair is different; right side is warmer. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1609
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Not precisely. It's just an effect of autocontrast applied to both shots. I wished to avoid difference in colour balance set by the camera for each lens, and it worked the other way round.
Here are the SOOC jpegs of both, just resized.
Micro Nikkor
Macro Hexanon
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10688 Location: California
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Ah ha! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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SandroB
Joined: 07 Mar 2013 Posts: 40 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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SandroB wrote:
Judging from the photos you show my preference would be the Micro-Nikkor, but I don't think I could really explain why. Do you have a preference or do you use the lenses for different subjects, light situaions, indoor-outdoor etc.?
Lex _________________ Lenses:
Leitz/Leica Elmarit-M 2; Elmarit-M 28; Summaron 2.8/35; Summicron 35; Summilux 35; Summarit 1.5/50; Elmar 50; Elmar-M 50; Summicron 50; Summilux 50; Elmar 65; Elmar 90; Elmarit 90; Tele-Elmar 135; Elmarit 135; Telyt 4/200.
Steinheil Culminar 2.8/90
Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 4.5/135
Bodies: Leica M3, M4, M4-2, M4-P, M6TTL, MDa, MD-2 |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1174
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
judging by the first picture, the dof of the hexanon seems to be higher, there´s more area in focus, or maybe focusing point it is not the same on both pictures? it is still unclear to me on the the chair there seems to be less blurry area, i´m confused
On the long distance shots, probably hexanon do a bit better , but of course 3.5 shouldn´t be the one to tell which one is best |
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tachi
Joined: 09 May 2020 Posts: 98 Location: China guangzhou
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:42 am Post subject: |
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tachi wrote:
The photo on the right is better _________________ a person has no faith if he has no patience |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1609
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
I might for sure have shifted a bit the focusing point going from one lens to the other, as well as the physical point from which I was shooting handheld, thus contributing to the bokeh difference in complex background items.
The point I wished to demonstrate is that the difference between the two lenses is surprisingly small. So if you've got one or another for a good price, you should not be worried too much about the "best choice". Both perform very well, being very close all-purpose runners.
By the way, when I got the Macro Hexanon for 45 euros several years ago, I considered it as a really good catch for the price. I see now several Micro Nikkors (always 3.5/55) at local French boards for 45 and 50 euros, and ask myself if that is a particularly good moment to buy a macro lens if someone wishes it, or the era of high demand for macro + Nikon mark is over. |
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