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Meyer Primoplan 58mm F1.9 Red V on NEX 5N
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Meyer Primoplan 58mm F1.9 Red V on NEX 5N Reply with quote
My copy has some coating problem on inner elements but it is free from scratch. It is the latest version with blue coating. I will skip the introduction as this is a well known lens.

Photos processed with basic charity/vibrance boost with medium contrast in tone curve.

Most photos are taken @ F1.9 to F2.8.

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This photo is from another day.


Thanks for viewing! Wink


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Amazing bokeh, nice colours, the reproduction of colour gold is especially nice. Thanks for sharing, should dig out mine to use more frequently...


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great series, lovely shoots!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Great series, lovely shoots!


+1 great lens


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I really like the character of this lens, lovely series.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I really like the character of this lens, lovely series.


+1 that. Excellent.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice results - congratulations.
I am puzzled by the prices that are paid for this lens though.
It must be because it is hard to find and commands a rare premium in the marketplace.
Yes, the bokeh is lovely and the colours are good, (but have been assisted here by pp) and the definition is dreamy for want of sharpness in some cases, but all of this can be found in some very common lenses - Yashicas come to mind as rendering in a similar fashion.
Maybe the Meyer is an acquired taste, and I am still ruminating ................ Question
OH


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice series.
This lens has a unique bokeh and look. Not the sharpest, but full of character.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks all! Hope this series can show the strengths of this lens.

Oldhand wrote:
Very nice results - congratulations.
I am puzzled by the prices that are paid for this lens though.
It must be because it is hard to find and commands a rare premium in the marketplace.
Yes, the bokeh is lovely and the colours are good, (but have been assisted here by pp) and the definition is dreamy for want of sharpness in some cases, but all of this can be found in some very common lenses - Yashicas come to mind as rendering in a similar fashion.
Maybe the Meyer is an acquired taste, and I am still ruminating ................ Question
OH

It is more rare the the Biotar sold at the same time. With patience, you should able to find one at around $100 to $150 in Exa mount on eBay.

The out of camera raw is very dull on 5N. Minimal PP is applied to make the photo more near the color I saw. Like the Trioplan 2.8/100, many people buy this lens for its the bokeh and 3D rendering at small aperture value. Personally, I think this lens may not suits beginners. An experienced photographer like you should be able to make the best of it without abusing the bokeh.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, very nice lens, I like mine a lot!


PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow! Now I think I need to find one...


PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Amazing bokeh, nice colours!!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great bokeh!

Now I need to get one of these too Razz


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
unpopular reply down here:
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Hi, guys. looking at these pictures and others around the web. I don't see what's special about this particular Meyer lens.
Trioplan for example delivers nice (unintended) bokeh and you pay premium, this lens has the same characteristics (bokeh, sharpness, colours) as the helios 44-2 it only costs 10 times more. What's so special about this lens?
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End of unpopular reply Razz


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dogtag wrote:
Hi, guys. looking at these pictures and others around the web. I don't see what's special about this particular Meyer lens.
Trioplan for example delivers nice (unintended) bokeh and you pay premium, this lens has the same characteristics (bokeh, sharpness, colours) as the helios 44-2 it only costs 10 times more. What's so special about this lens?


Maybe it's because this lens does have its special bokeh and look which is really not hellios/biotar-like. I know people who hate Primoplan's bokeh and wouldn't pay a fraction of its price although they like Biotar's bokeh - that only proves Primoplan is special Smile
Plus this lens is relatively rare and here comes the premium part of the price.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have to be honest, the Primoplan produces effects that are generally hated when produced by any other lens. I can understand that it is popular because it is "different" and because it is uncommon. I remember when there was a fad for the Diana cameras about ten years ago, and those were selling for hundreds of dollars too. So I understand the prices - but I would never pay them, just as I didn't pay $200 for a Diana when their popularity peaked, even though I understood the appeal.

Put me in the camp that would rather have a Biotar, or Xenon for the price.

The shots and scenery are nice though. Smile


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: aahhh beauty Reply with quote
Simply wonderful !!!! amazing pictures.
I received my primoplan today too . And after seeing these pictures , I am really looking forward to using it.! hunting for an adapter for exakta-eos right now. I paid 75$ for mine locally.. any advice about this exakta version?


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Everyone have different opinions of their own. I am happy to get the "unpopular" reply from fellow members to make this thread more healthy.

My intention on the photos posted this thread is not to show the bokeh of the Primoplan but its abilities to create/capture the atmosphere of the scene. I want to show that what Primoplan can do when there is plenty of light. Not all lenses are good at keeping the highlight details under bright light.

The bokeh of this lens can be distracting or pleasant depend on the conditions. Many people in the west think the bokeh is distracting on the Primoplans and Biotars but many people in the love the swirl bokeh. Similarly, mirror lens are not raised in the west but people in the east love the doughnut bokeh very much. Depends on the situations, the effects can be lovely or ugly.

For those who are new to MF lenses, I will recommend the alu Biotar or alu Helios 44 over the Primoplan because they are more friendly. The Primoplan is a naughty child needs good care. It is a long way to know how to make good use of it naughtiness.

P.S. I paid more for my alu Biotar or alu Helios 44 than this Primoplan. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We are lucky we have no same taste and every lens finally land in good hands. It is always amazing to see if I can't handle a lens well and another people how get out maximum from them, I had zero respect about Trioplan, Primoplan in past , now I have much more due I see them in proper hands.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Piktuolis wrote:
Dogtag wrote:
Hi, guys. looking at these pictures and others around the web. I don't see what's special about this particular Meyer lens.
Trioplan for example delivers nice (unintended) bokeh and you pay premium, this lens has the same characteristics (bokeh, sharpness, colours) as the helios 44-2 it only costs 10 times more. What's so special about this lens?


Maybe it's because this lens does have its special bokeh and look which is really not hellios/biotar-like. I know people who hate Primoplan's bokeh and wouldn't pay a fraction of its price although they like Biotar's bokeh - that only proves Primoplan is special Smile
Plus this lens is relatively rare and here comes the premium part of the price.

Sorry I think that both lenses have similar bokeh. At least my old(er)44-2 does. If you would have said Trioplan, I would understand, that lens really does have a special bokeh.
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