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Meyer Kinon f2.5 75mm uncoated projection lens from 1904
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's so beautifull ! render is nice and very interesting ! Thx for sharing


PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice! I'm curious, though -- what sort of projection was being done in 1904? Motion pictures hadn't been invented yet, had they? Much less film strips? Also, what's the image circle of that lens? I'll bet it's quite large -- really good for large format then.


PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys!

cooltouch wrote:
Very nice! I'm curious, though -- what sort of projection was being done in 1904? Motion pictures hadn't been invented yet, had they? Much less film strips? Also, what's the image circle of that lens? I'll bet it's quite large -- really good for large format then.


No idea really. Obviously a new development, as it was a store sales sample to be used to convince prospective buyers.
The lens is rather small, and its image circle at infinity is approx 60-70mm, not really that large, but large enough for cine film projection.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
Very nice! I'm curious, though -- what sort of projection was being done in 1904? Motion pictures hadn't been invented yet, had they? Much less film strips? Also, what's the image circle of that lens? I'll bet it's quite large -- really good for large format then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetoscope
A process using roll film first described in a patent application submitted in France and the U.S. by French inventor Louis Le Prince, the concept was also used by U.S. inventor Thomas Edison in 1889, and subsequently developed by his employee William Kennedy Laurie Dickson between 1889 and 1892.[1] Dickson and his team at the Edison lab also devised the Kinetograph, an innovative motion picture camera with rapid intermittent, or stop-and-go, film movement, to photograph movies for in-house experiments and, eventually, commercial Kinetoscope presentations.
Kinetoscope.... Meyer Kinon, hmmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_projector
The Lumière brothers invented the first successful movie projector. They made their first film, Sortie de l'usine Lumière de Lyon, in 1894, which was publicly screened at L'Eden, La Ciotat a year later. The first commercial, public screening of cinematographic films happened in Paris on 28 December 1895.[2] The cinematograph was also exhibited at the Paris Exhibition of 1900.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-movie-projector-demonstrated-in-united-states
On this day in 1895, Woodville Latham and his sons, Otway and Gray, demonstrate their “Panopticon,” the first movie projector developed in the United States.

https://ourpastimes.com/the-history-of-the-movie-projector-12180892.html


PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So from that it was no wonder that mcompany MEYER has developed some projection lens
as early as 1904 and that as a store demo lens to start marketing and selling those!

Thanks for your research!


PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Meyer Kinon f2.5 75mm uncoated projection lens from 1904 Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Meyer Kinon f2.5 / 75mm uncoated projection lens from 1904 (store demo lens, never ment to be sold then)


I'm a bit late here, but the earliest source I could find of the Kinon lens is this:

Translated excerpt from Die Welt (1911):

Quote:
The company Hugo Meyer & Co, Görlitz, has issued a new list of special lenses for projection and cinematography. Particularly recommended for their high performance are:

Omin I f/3.5, a well-corrected lens both spherically and chromatically, Petzval system, available at a moderate price. Additionally, the long-known and established Schnellarbeiter f/3, and the new Aristostigmat f/4. The latter can also be used as a universal anastigmat for very fast snapshots and studio purposes, meeting the highest standards.

For cinema purposes, we mention:
Kinon f/2.5 and f/3.2, two extremely high-aperture lenses with exceptional performance.
The condensers are delivered in quick-release mounts, whose design is protected by D. R. G. M. The unique construction of the mounts allows for quick lens changes and easy cleaning.

The catalog, which also includes a range of other lenses as well as detailed tables for selecting focal lengths, etc., is available to interested parties free of charge.


Attached is the oldest Kinon I f/2.5 ad I could find from 1914:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a lovely lens - beautiful rendition - the effect is just what I try to achieve but much better.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys!

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