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 Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:43 pm Post subject: MC.Rokkor.PF 58mmf1.4 WO |
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papasito wrote:
I don't like that lens very much.
The 7° element improve a lot the IQ of the 1,4 lenses.
But I like your pics a lot.
Another case of better fotographer than lens. |
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Lloydy wrote:
5 nearly does it for me, 7 I quite like. The bokeh is too dominant for my taste and those two pictures are the nearest to my liking - but - the sharpness is there, I like the colours and the 3D pop is dramatic in a few pictures. I like Rokkors a lot, and I wouldn't dismiss this lens, but I think I would be using at least one stop closed.
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StillSanj wrote:
Your shots and sharpness are great, but that bokeh is a little too crazy for me...not creamy enough. I imagine it might work well for backgrounds with light sources such as street lights etc. |
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kryss wrote:
Thank you gentlemen,much appreciated.I agree it would look better 1or2 stops more but I am trying all my f1.4 lenses for sharpness and contrast wide open.
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After comparing the Minolta 58/1.4 vs Konica 57/1.4 I thought that Konica is technically better (+ has much closer Minimal focal distance), but looking at the pics now there is more magic to the minolta : I think bokeh is better for sure , if I remember both versions of 58/1.4 having great build quality (such a nice cold feeling of metal bulid-similar to Taks) Hmmm
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kryss wrote:
radissimo77........Very nice I like all 3. 
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CBokeh wrote:
The bokeh in these images is artificially exaggerated through PP. I have never produced shots remotely like these with my Minolta, nor would I want to try. Some people apparently like this look, I'm not in that camp (no offence to the people who like this look, it is my preference). If you prefer this "magic" I can see how with some PP tweaking you could easily get the same look with what you've shot with the Konica.
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After comparing the Minolta 58/1.4 vs Konica 57/1.4 I thought that Konica is technically better (+ has much closer Minimal focal distance), but looking at the pics now there is more magic to the minolta : I think bokeh is better for sure , if I remember both versions of 58/1.4 having great build quality (such a nice cold feeling of metal bulid-similar to Taks) Hmmm
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radissimo77
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radissimo77 wrote:
I never do any heavy PP on my images posted on this forum (apart cropping and very rarely adjusting brightness/levels)
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Oldhand wrote:
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After comparing the Minolta 58/1.4 vs Konica 57/1.4 I thought that Konica is technically better (+ has much closer Minimal focal distance), but looking at the pics now there is more magic to the minolta : I think bokeh is better for sure , if I remember both versions of 58/1.4 having great build quality (such a nice cold feeling of metal bulid-similar to Taks) Hmmm
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Quite a few very nice images in this thread - well done.
Radissimo, are these taken with the Konica or the Minolta - I am confused.
Thanks
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The bokeh in these images is artificially exaggerated through PP. I have never produced shots remotely like these with my Minolta, nor would I want to try. Some people apparently like this look, I'm not in that camp (no offence to the people who like this look, it is my preference). If you prefer this "magic" I can see how with some PP tweaking you could easily get the same look with what you've shot with the Konica.
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After comparing the Minolta 58/1.4 vs Konica 57/1.4 I thought that Konica is technically better (+ has much closer Minimal focal distance), but looking at the pics now there is more magic to the minolta : I think bokeh is better for sure , if I remember both versions of 58/1.4 having great build quality (such a nice cold feeling of metal bulid-similar to Taks) Hmmm
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The author says that there is no PP. Nevertheless I would like to know what do you mean . Hiow can I influence ( "exagerate") the bokeh in PP. |
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radissimo77
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radissimo77 wrote:
@Oldhand
sorry for confusion, these are Minoltas (as per the thread title). I have the SAME pics taken with hexanon 57/1.4 as well though...
Cheers,
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@Oldhand
sorry for confusion, these are Minoltas (as per the thread title). I have the SAME pics taken with hexanon 57/1.4 as well though...
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Thank you Rado.
I suspected that they were but was not sure. I really like those three images.
The grasses shot is amazing.
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radissimo77
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radissimo77 wrote:
@Oldhand
thans for compliment, I posted those just to show a different character of this lens,nothing too artisty,just few shots when walking with Hex 57/1.4 and this Minolta.
If OP won't mind I will post same shots done w Hexanon.
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kryss wrote:
No problem..radissimo77  I also posted Konica shots.
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| No problem..radissimo77 I also posted Konica shots. |
are your photos form the first post from Konica then?
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