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mo
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: Manual Focus Lenses and focusing/ liveview/ focuspeaking |
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mo wrote:
I guess this question could go here or in the DSLR section but my camera is the K-01.
I took the K-01 out with Angenieux 28/3.5 attached.I know its an old lens with bad coating and it is a pain to focus with, even when it was on the K200D and I was using its viewfinder.
I took the Angenieux out as I wanted to try a few landscape images and was totally devastated with my lack of ability to clearly see what was in focus when looking at the back screen of the K-01.I just could not see the detail in the screen it was too dark.I mean it was hard to separate the shadow from the subject...all the fine details you can usually see when taking a photo looking through a viewfinder. It was a cloudy/dull winter day and I guess that does not help ...I was looking for that sort of mood that's why I was out with the camera.
I could focus close up or take basic flower shots using the back screen with other lenses.But found not being able to see the back screen when just taking a "normal" image frustrated me.I am still getting used to the K-01 and have tried a few settings in camera to help the situation (bump up the brightness of the screen...that did not help)....so I am still in the New camera learning curve.
My question is this, those of you who have only the back screen of the camera as the focusing aid,should I be able to use just the back screen in this situation on a cloudy dull day or should I look into getting another focusing aid?.... OR am I purely just going through a learning curve and not worry too much at this time?
Do different lenses on the camera make viewing with a back screen easier or harder? Thanks for any thoughts or experiences.
I do think I need to try another lens in the same conditions other than the Angenieux and compare notes. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
obviously the relatively low light and (i suppose) low contrast from the lens make the focusing even more challenging.
All the focusing aids (focus peaking, magnified view) are useful, but there are light conditions in which the screen is just too hard to see.
For these situations, on my nex, I use this Click here to see on Ebay: it's great because it's cheap, it eliminates reflections and annoying ambient light, and also magnifies the screen, so it's a great help.
I don't know if there's one for the k01 as well, but I've seen many for many models, and also some "universal" ones. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks,it is good to know it was not just me or the lens (it does suffer from low contrast but the detail it captures is why I persevere) I do know there is an aid out there for the K-01, someone linked to one in another post that I will have to find again.. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
Does your camera have focus peaking and magnified view? Is the "sensitivity" adjustable? I find that often when using lenses that have low contrast and/or sharpness I need to bump up the focus peaking level on my NEX. And vice versa. When there's a lot of contrast I need to turn it down for it to be useful. Also more often than not it is necessary to use magnified veiw for precise focusing, especially when you don't have a lot of separation between the subject and background. |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
I usually use only the lcd with focus peaking and magnified view and I don't have problems with them, it happens sometimes that I have to set the lcd brightness to "sunny day" on the nex to see better |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
My Canon doesn't have focus peaking (that's only on the NEX, right?), but it does have Live View. One of the things I like about it is it boosts the image in low-light situations so it is legible in the viewfinder, although things can get really noisy if it is a very dim image. But in order to view it like this, I must set the camera in Aperture Priority mode. Have you tried setting your camera to different exposure options, see if this makes a difference in the way the screen displays the image? _________________ Michael
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Lloydy
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
On the NEX you can change the focus peaking colour, which I do quite often as light conditions change. I generally use red, sometimes yellow and very occasionally white. Doing that I get by in most situations. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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mo
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:13 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thank you all so much...I have to get acquainted with my settings a little better.The K-01 does have focus peaking, as far as I can tell you can only have it with white as the color for the outline...that did not help in my situation.
You have given me a few things to check in my manual to see if the K-01 has the equivalent of what is being mentioned.In the settings there is an option called "Quick zoom" it has the options x2,x4,x8,x16 I will turn this on and see what happens. I will work my way through your suggestions and get back to you with what I find out. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:22 am Post subject: |
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