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kansalliskala
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:16 am Post subject: M42 lenses with Pentax K-bodies exposure metering? |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Can it be done somehow?
Are there adapters that tell the body aperture?
edit: fixed the title, the question is below expressed more clearly (I hope ) _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
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Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11069 Location: California
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Tell what to what? "that tell the body aperture" can mean "to tell the body aperture" set on lens, or, "to tell the lens the aperture" set on the body.
Later Asahi and Pentax M42 and K-mount lenses have a lever which position is monitored by body. Adapter chips some can register the aperture set by camera (for exif) but lens must be set manually. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:03 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I'm assuming that, since kansalliskala mentions M42 and K bodies that he's not referring to anything as hitech as exif and what have you.
Just to be sure about nomenclature, when aperture is mentioned, usually we're referring to the iris mechanism on a lens. So it's lens aperture, not body aperture. The body houses the shutter (obviously) so it is the body's shutter speed that is one of the two components of exposure that a camera's exposure meter measures -- or evaluates. The light value recorded by the meter is actually the quantity that is measured. The camera then determines the proper shutter speed and aperture for correct exposure to occur. In the case of the old-school mechanical cameras, the correct exposure is arrived at by centering the needle(s) of the aperture ring and shutter speed dial, each keying off the exposure value recorded by the meter.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5046 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:03 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
In the case of the old-school mechanical cameras, the correct exposure is arrived at by centering the needle(s) of the aperture ring and shutter speed dial, each keying off the exposure value recorded by the meter.
Now, if you already know all this, then just what the hell are you talking about? Er, writing about? |
Sorry for being too cryptic.
I have some m42 lenses I would like to use with a Ricoh K-5 body.
Exposure meter needle moves when you set the aperture of a K-mount lens, so it can be centered to the ring that moves when you move the exposure time selector.
I wonder if there are m42 adapters that you can fix so that the aperture lever or connector was positioned like f/4. Then I could use the lenses at f/4 (135 and 200 mm lenses, that would be just good). _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well AFAIK for any bayonet film camera that can take a M42 lens adapter there is no mechanism which pushes the pin at the back of the m42 lens that operates the iris, so only M42 lenses that have a auto\manual switch or preset for aperture are useful...all the others without, would have to be used wide open.
So M42 lenses that can be stopped down, select the aperture and take the exposure reading...some older M42 lenses are handy in that once you have selected your aperture there is a ring on the lens that swivels to fully open to stop down, this is handy for focussing. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11069 Location: California
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 9:40 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Late model Super, Super-Multi-Coated, and SMC -Takumars lenses have the aperture-coupling lever for letting body know the setting, as do Ricoh lenses. This was improvement made by Pentax to M42 mount, carried into K-mount lens/camera design. I don't know of any M42 Takumar or M42 Ricoh adapters which couple the lever to Ricoh K-mount body.
Edit: Oh! Wait! Pentax M42 to K-mount should work for coupling M42 lenses with aperture lever to Ricoh K-mount bodies -- the Super, Super-Multi-Coated, SMC, and Ricoh M42 lenses. |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
No, anything earlier than Pentax-A can only be used as dumb lens. I think there is (may be not on all bodies) some roundabout way to use -K and -M lenses in aperture priority, but definitely not M42. |
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