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taunusreiter
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taunusreiter wrote:
Remove the top plate of a Zeiss-Ikon Icarex and a Pentax Spotmatic and you will never doubt that the Pentax is the better camera.
The Spotmatic was a professional camera in the sixties. Many Pro's still uses them in the 70's (these who do not like Nikon). No Pro bought a Icarex. The Icarex was the cheap line of Zeiss Ikon. It was cheaper than a Spotmatic (600,- vs. 800,- German marks) and selling worse. With a reason.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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Remove the top plate of a Zeiss-Ikon Icarex and a Pentax Spotmatic and you will never doubt that the Pentax is the better camera.
The Spotmatic was a professional camera in the sixties. Many Pro's still uses them in the 70's (these who do not like Nikon). No Pro bought a Icarex. The Icarex was the cheap line of Zeiss Ikon. It was cheaper than a Spotmatic (600,- vs. 800,- German marks) and selling worse. With a reason. |
Most of the time German products have better feeling even if they are not better than Japanese products. I love really everything what is German , but I can't imagine better cameras than Nikon made ones.
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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estudleon wrote:
I think that to "play" use (not work or if you have a first cam yet), the cheap praktica is one serious option. I have the MTL 5 (broken base, almost ruined cosmetically) from 1988 and it does the work OK. I used it in the rain, at the beach, in very cold time, etc. Used it to open the capot of my car too. It's a camera and a all use tool!!
I changed cams, lenses, brands, but the praktica is somewhere with my things.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008
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Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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spiralcity wrote:
I collect Fujica gear. I can clearly state that the ST801 is a nice body. The viewfinder is truly bright and the body is extremely sturdy.
I had 3 ST801 bodies but I gave 2 away, one to a member of this site. The ST705 and St705w are also very nice.
Fujica bodies should sell very cheap on ebay.
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Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
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Location: Taiwan
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djmike wrote:
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I collect Fujica gear. I can clearly state that the ST801 is a nice body. The viewfinder is truly bright and the body is extremely sturdy.
I had 3 ST801 bodies but I gave 2 away, one to a member of this site. The ST705 and St705w are also very nice.
Fujica bodies should sell very cheap on ebay.
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Wow, your ST801 (and EBC) is in a very good shape.
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DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008
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Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
| djmike wrote: |
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I collect Fujica gear. I can clearly state that the ST801 is a nice body. The viewfinder is truly bright and the body is extremely sturdy.
I had 3 ST801 bodies but I gave 2 away, one to a member of this site. The ST705 and St705w are also very nice.
Fujica bodies should sell very cheap on ebay.
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Wow, your ST801 (and EBC) is in a very good shape. |
Hi DJ,
I collect Fujica gear. This camera is from my collection and sits on a shelf. Nobody handles the cameras from my collection except me. 
My daughter has an interest in photography, so I have to keep my eye's on her... I caught her with one of my Chinons and decided to give it to her, hoping this would keep her away from my collection. 
I would calll this body and lens Mint minus.
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Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
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mUg
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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mUg wrote:
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Fujica bodies should sell very cheap on ebay.
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They indeed do, i don't really understand why sellers underestimate this cameras, they're actually more than nicely usable and have nice sets of features. Maybe it's only that the Fujica name now it's not more that known as it was years ago, now that we mostly have Nikons and Canons all the way into advertising and shops. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
| mUg wrote: |
| spiralcity wrote: |
Fujica bodies should sell very cheap on ebay.
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They indeed do, i don't really understand why sellers underestimate this cameras, they're actually more than nicely usable and have nice sets of features. Maybe it's only that the Fujica name now it's not more that known as it was years ago, now that we mostly have Nikons and Canons all the way into advertising and shops. |
Yes, fujicas are very good cams.
I have a AZ1, ST 705W and had a ST 801 (now sold).
Very lights, easy to use, little gems.
OK, not professional use, endeed. Only a hobby use, but i like them.
Who don't have one, try. Nice experience.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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estudleon wrote:
Oh, forget:
don't like the zenit et (plastic ones). It remind me the old 127 baquelite gevaert.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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OregonJim
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Posts: 14
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: |
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OregonJim wrote:
Spotmatic F is my favorite M42 body, though any Spottie is nice. 
Second favorite is a GAF L-ES black body - not sure why - it just 'feels right' to me. Like a Spottie, but with aperture priority as a bonus.
I have several Prakticas, MTL3, LTL3, Nova 1B, LX2, etc. They are all workable, but I don't favor them too much. Like someone else said, you accumulate these things as they tend to come attached to lenses...
Ricoh is another undervalued brand IMO, just like Fujicas. Several of the earlier ones were fine M42 bodies, and they made one hell of a lot of nice K-mount bodies as well. I was just shooting with an XR-2 yesterday, as a matter of fact. |
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