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ruber
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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: looking for a good 24 - 28 mm bargain |
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ruber wrote:
Thanks to your support, I bought a helios 44m 58mm and a planar T 1.7 50mm.
I'd like to find a lense in the range of 24-28mm to add. (with my aps-c 550d 35mm could be too close to 50, could not?)
I also have a tamron 17-50 vc 2.8, so, at the moment, I'd like a result "better" than it (bokeh, sharpness, ...) but not very expensive, let's say under 50-60€. Does it exist?
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dani9batan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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dani9batan wrote:
When I had 7D -APSC- I was very happy with my Yashica ML 24  it's a great option to small sensor
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poilu wrote:
superb shot Dani!
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dani9batan
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dani9batan wrote:
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| superb shot Dani! |
Thanks! This 24mm is very sharp and has a very good colour, similar to Zeiss T*. The problem is in FF, the sharp and definition on the corners. In Sony NEX It'll be very good.
This photos were taken in Gandía, Valencia. This is my girlfriend 
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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| This is my girlfriend |
Congrats! don't forget the flowers for the Saint Valentine
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ruber
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ruber wrote:
thank you Dani
Very good pictures indeed.
Actually it's a little out of my budget: if I searched correctly, it's about 200€ used on the bay
I'll absolutely keep this lens in mind for the future anyway.
I agree with poilu, don't forget the flowers |
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dani9batan
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dani9batan wrote:
Thanks! I have bought chocolates and I have printed a photography of us 
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
Zuiko 2.8/24mm a little gem, even on FF. You can get non-MC versions ~100€.
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Tedat wrote:
| ruber wrote: |
I'd like a result "better" than it (bokeh, sharpness, ...) but not very expensive, let's say under 50-60€. Does it exist?
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you easily get a Komine made Vivitar close focus 2.8/28mm for your money.. and that's a great litte lens.
There is one in UK at the moment:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190639314869
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Attila wrote:
| BRunner wrote: |
| Zuiko 2.8/24mm a little gem, even on FF. You can get non-MC versions ~100€. |
+10 best option under 300 EUR.
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rafa1981
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rafa1981 wrote:
| BRunner wrote: |
| Zuiko 2.8/24mm a little gem, even on FF. You can get non-MC versions ~100€. |
Plus some distortion correctin software (PTLens=19€) if shooting architectural on full frame, at least on the last nMC versions that is the one I have.
It was curious for me, that in all the reviews I have read they say that the zuiko 24 distortion is first-order barrel type, but not on mine, or at least not correctible in lightroom.
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I love my RMC Tokina 28mm 2.8 in M42 mount. I picked it up for $11 on the 'bay, and while it usually sells for more it should be easy to find for under $100.
I love the sharpness from wide open, the beautiful, natural colour straight out of the camera, and how closely it can focus. It's one of my favourite lenses, if not 'the' favourite.
This next one was a significant crop, but still nice and sharp.
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Lloydy wrote:
| Tedat wrote: |
| ruber wrote: |
I'd like a result "better" than it (bokeh, sharpness, ...) but not very expensive, let's say under 50-60€. Does it exist?
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you easily get a Komine made Vivitar close focus 2.8/28mm for your money.. and that's a great litte lens.
There is one in UK at the moment:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190639314869 |
Absolutely, it's a stunning lens. I seem to get better results from this lens than any other I have. And there's a lot about, I saw about 5 or 6 at the camera fair a few weeks ago, most priced around £10 to £20. They are a bargain at that sort of price.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I much preferred the Tokina 2.8/28 to the Vivitar CF 2.8/28. Friend just bought a mint M42 Tokina 28 for 15ukp on ebay.
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Tedat
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Tedat wrote:
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And there's a lot about, I saw about 5 or 6 at the camera fair a few weeks ago, most priced around £10 to £20. They are a bargain at that sort of price. |
for this price I would buy them all
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martinsmith99 wrote:
24/3.5 Takumar or 24/2.8 Ensinor.
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ruber
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
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ruber wrote:
Thank you all,
great info!
I am searching
Obviously, you think that these lenses would be better than my tamron 17-50 vc at 28mm. ( this is the purpose, since, after the helios and the planar T, I am on a budget at the moment ) |
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rafa1981
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rafa1981 wrote:
BTW, I don't think that a manual focus WA is the most convenient on an APS camera, todays zooms on APS are only beaten by the best legacy 35mm wide angles, and those are not very-cost effective.
Maybe you save money and size, but you give comfort (auto-aperture and correct metering), convenience (Wide-end) and sometimes optical performance in return.
Keep on mind that I´m speaking on APS, on FF that's another story.
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ruber
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ruber wrote:
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BTW, I don't think that a manual focus WA is the most convenient on an APS camera, todays zooms on APS are only beaten by the best legacy 35mm wide angles, and those are not very-cost effective.
Maybe you save money and size, but you give comfort (auto-aperture and correct metering), convenience (Wide-end) and sometimes optical performance in return.
Keep on mind that I´m speaking on APS, on FF that's another story. |
ouch. 
Thank you rafa. If I understand right, if I want a better result with legacy mf lenses than my tamron's in a "wide" aperture zone, I must look for a good 35mm. I would not have appreciable advantages with a legacy 24 or 28.
If so, I avoid to "waste" money at the moment and maybe I can focus on something more useful |
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Ymmot wrote:
I think he meant the 35mm film format not a 35mm focal length lens.
At least that is how I read it, its put a bit confusing when talking about wideangles... |
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ruber
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ruber wrote:
Thank you Ymmot. Good point |
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rafa1981
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rafa1981 wrote:
Sorry, I was referring to 35mm as 24x36 film, or FF on digital.
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uhoh7 wrote:
nikkor 24/2.8 or kiron 28/2?
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Andrew G. wrote:
Nikkor 28mm f3.5..
The oldest version can easily be found for under $100. All versions are pretty decent on APS-C and even the oldest single-coated version is very flare/ghost-resistant.
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jito wrote:
I bought a tokina and a yashica ml 28 mm but the adapters haven't arrived, so I haven't tried them. I picked those two after googling for samples of many 28mm lenses. I recommend you do the same as it is to some extent a matter of preference. Some like vivid colors, some prefer more pastel look, some like more contrast, others value sharpness, bokeh, lack of fall off, etc.
Sorry to hijack the topic, ruber, could you post samples taken with your tamron?
I want to get that lens myself but would like to see first what it is capable of. Could be interesting to see how it compares to budget legacy wide angle primes.
I have camera with a crop sensor too, as I buy lenses with lower focal lengths I start to understand why people want full frame cameras. |
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