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duartix
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 Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Looking for a 250 to 400mm prime. |
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duartix wrote:
I'm looking for a good telephoto prime for use on my 10MP Olympus E-510.
I've got a mirror Tamron 500SP F8 but it lets down A LOT on per pixel sharpness.
It doesn't have to be that fast, I favor image quality, portability and price.
How good is the TELE-TAKUMAR 300mm f 6.3 ?
And the Soligor 300mm f/5.5?
Should I go with Nikkor instead?
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Richard_D
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Best 300mm I've used is the Tamron SP 5.6 - very sharp and compact. The Nikkor 4.5 is very good but I wouldn't say it was better. Supposedly the non-IF ED Nikkor is superb with the IF version being extremely good but both fetch a premium.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I can only comment on the Tele-Tak 300. I've seen images at 16x20 and I think one was 20x30....sharp and beautiful. The beauty of the images is etched in my memory.
Seems to me, that a print made from a lens, especially a larger print, would be a good "proof" of quality.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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How good is the TELE-TAKUMAR 300mm f 6.3 ?
And the Soligor 300mm f/5.5?
Should I go with Nikkor instead? |
Certainly better brand has better lenses, don't hesitate go for Nikkor.
My experience with 300mm lenses are next:
Top lenses:
Nikkor 300mm f4.5 ED IF, Carl Zeiss Jena 300mm f4 MC and zebra, Olympus OM 300mm f4.5, Tair-3S Fotosnipper 300mm f4.5,Tamron SP 300mm f5.6, Tamron SP 350mm f5.6 (mirror)
Very good ones:
Nikkor 300mm f4.5, SMC Talumar 300mm f4, Carl Zeiss Jena Olympic Sonnar 300mm f4,Pentacon 300mm f4, Meyer-Orestegor 300mm f4, Meyer-Telemegor 300mm f4.5
Acceptable:
Vivitar 300mm f5.5
You can find with all above lenses samples in mflenses.com/gallery
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duartix
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
Thanks everyone for the guidance and especially Attila for such a comprehensive list. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Your very welcome!
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duartix
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: SP and regular |
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duartix wrote:
How much does the Tamron 300mm f4.5 (regular version) fall behind the SP version?
Will the regular version still out-resolve my Olympus E-510 10MP? |
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spb37
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Fishing the bay |
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spb37 wrote:
Took a quick look at what strange creatures might be lurking on the bay. Could not find the Tamron 300mm SP but that shows up often and would be worth fishing for.
This nikkor looked promising
Click here to see on Ebay
Fishing the bay is dangerous, do your due deligence but the seller has decent feedback and is a steely dan fan.
Atilla can tells us about the
HEINZ KILFITT MUNCHEN-TELE KILAR 1:5.6 - f=300 mm Lens
Click here to see on Ebay
There is an outside chance this
Click here to see on Ebay
is the beloved tamron sp 300, I remember reading it was also sold by other manufacturers. It has the built in hood, looks similar, not identical, might be worth checking filter size, curious what more knowledgable people think.
The Tair is on the bay too but without the photosniper assembly. It only meets part of your criteria, it is sharp but heavy. Photosniper means a gun like focusing mechanism. Actually used by Russian spies to photograph (and scare) people entering American embasies years ago. Incredible novelty, I have the TAIR-3S but regret not getting it with the gun assembly (photosniper). Some russian lens web sites sell it new if interested. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Currently I follow a Tamron SP 300mm f5.6 on Ebay UK. I yield you to get it if you want.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have no experience with Tokina and Kilfitt.
Tamron SP and Nikkor both are great lenses.
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peterm1
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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peterm1 wrote:
The Nikkor 300mm ED lenses are universally regarded as top notch and well above their own NIkkor predecessors in quality.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/telephotos/300mmf45.htm
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I can confirm! ED glass is the best version.
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duartix
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
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| Currently I follow a Tamron SP 300mm f5.6 on Ebay UK. I yield you to get it if you want. |
For £62.25 it was a steal! Unfortunately and despite my best efforts, the seller wouldn't ship abroad... |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
We have nice family here, you able to ask any forum member from UK to transfer to you.
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duartix
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
Thanks for the idea.
I've got a chance to buy one of these now:
http://www.adaptall-2.com/lenses/670Au.html
So,in order for me to set a fair price, I need to know have an idea on how much worse this is compared to a SP...
http://www.adaptall-2.com/lenses/54B.html
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peterqd
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Do you realise this is an older Adapt-a-matic lens? If it has the mount you need then no problem, but you won't be able to use the normal Adaptall-2 mounts. My guess this lens is pretty average - I wouldn't risk my money on it without trying it first.
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have the Adapt-a-matic 200/3.5 - the little brother of that first one - and I find it to be very good indeed.
I would be interested in getting the 300mm Adapt-a-matic myself. I think a reasonable price would be about $30.
Its true that the mounts are not easy to come by, you would have to buy a lens with the right mount if that one doesn't have it already.
An alternative mounting workaround I have heard of is to use an adapted 58mm filter (take out glass, grind down to leave just the female thread) plus a reverse adapter.
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duartix
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
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| Do you realise this is an older Adapt-a-matic lens? If it has the mount you need then no problem, but you won't be able to use the normal Adaptall-2 mounts. |
The mount is identical to this: 
This is M42 right? I believe there is a common adapter to 4/3! |
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
That is an M42.
More, its not really an adapt-a-matic. I believe its a fixed mount, with what may be an aperture linkage for the later Spotmatics. I'd heard that some adapt-a-matic series lenses were made in fixed mount, and this seems to be one of them.
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duartix
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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duartix wrote:
Well, I got it:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=130245523181
but for a WHOLE lot more than the 30$ it was valued it in this thread.
Hell, I'll pay more than that just in shipping, and I hope not to pay as much in customs... 
But what the heck, it's looks like the most beautiful lens I've ever seen (for this specific age!) |
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