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caspert79
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 Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 5:06 pm Post subject: Leitz Elmar-M 135mm f/4 vs Nikkor Ai 135mm f/3.5 |
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caspert79 wrote:
First, center performance @ infinity:
 centercomparisonElmarvsNikkor by devoscasper, on Flickr
Perfect performance on a hi res digital sensor at all tested apertures from both lenses.
Then, corners:
 cornercomparisonElmarvsNikkor by devoscasper, on Flickr
The Nikkor has better corners. They're about perfect from wide open. @f/11 they're equal. Remember each crop is less than 1% of the total image. The complete image from the Leitz still looks very good @ f/4.
Then, for a CA test I looked for a subject that would potentially generate CA's. Backlighted trees against a bright white sky. 100% crops.
 CAcomparisonElmarvsNikkor by devoscasper, on Flickr
Here is where the Elmar does its magic. Practically no CA's, which is amazing for such an old lens. It must be the Lanthanum glass. The Nikkor shows a bit more CA, bit still very good performance.
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visualopsins wrote:
  I like comparison test parameters! Clearly showing subtle differences.
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calvin83
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Pretty well-corrected lens like the 3-element 90/4.0. Leica really did a good job at making these Elmar with the newly developed using Lanthanum glass in the early 60s.
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Ultrapix
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Ultrapix wrote:
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lumens pixel wrote:
Excellent and informative comparison.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
I’m taking real life pictures today with the Elmar, and already took a peek at the images. I have to say they’re off the scale in terms of image quality. Better than all my other 135mm lenses. Will post them probably today.
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