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estudleon

Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject:

estudleon wrote:

Excalibur wrote:

Very good shots and also thumbs up for Konica lenses on a film camera for lovely results....for my copies for sharpness:- the 50mm f1.8 and f1.7 and 40mm f1.8 are excellent, the 28mm f3.5 is very good and the 135 f3.5 is good to very good.

In my experience of 20 years using hexanons. I found that the better, in IQ terms, normal is the oldest AR 1,7/50 mm. In the summicron level. Prehaps something colder rendering for somebody. The newer lines (@ from 1978) are MC and more in the warm side.

IN the 135 hexanons line, the F/3,2 is the lens to look for.

All the oldest wide angles are prone to flare,

Rino
_________________
Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

iangreenhalgh1

Joined: 18 Mar 2011
Posts: 15679

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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

eddieitman wrote:

Petergd comet have the nex 3 for 299 i reserved one for a friend in yorks comet and they gave him the nex c3 by accident for 299

299?

I paid 189 for mine with the 16mm kit lens, camera shop in cardiff on ebay.

How much better than the EE 3.5/135 I have is the 3.2/135? Enough to justify me buying one?
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stanleytung

Joined: 02 Sep 2011
Posts: 40
Location: HK

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:23 am Post subject:

stanleytung wrote:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

Those pictures are stunning Stanley. I too was stunend by the quality of my Hexanons.

The 21mm Hexanon will be a whole level higher in IQ than the Vivitar. Vivitar is a godo lens, Hexanon a great one, I really want the 21mm Hexanon but out of my budget for now.

The price for 21mm f4 is now crazy... but I really want to get one.....

btw, hows the quality for the 28mm 3.5 between 7 elements and 5 elements?
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estudleon

Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:45 am Post subject:

estudleon wrote:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

eddieitman wrote:

Petergd comet have the nex 3 for 299 i reserved one for a friend in yorks comet and they gave him the nex c3 by accident for 299

299?

I paid 189 for mine with the 16mm kit lens, camera shop in cardiff on ebay.

How much better than the EE 3.5/135 I have is the 3.2/135? Enough to justify me buying one?

MOre sharp, more cold than the newqer 3m5/135 and in the same rendering than the oldest 3,5/135. Better in the borders to me. It's a very cheap lens.

Rino
_________________
Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

estudleon

Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:57 am Post subject:

estudleon wrote:

stanleytung wrote:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

The price for 21mm f4 is now crazy... but I really want to get one.....

btw, hows the quality for the 28mm 3.5 between 7 elements and 5 elements?

7 elements. More resolution power. Better IQ in corners. More coldest colors rendering. MOre prone to flare. Single coated.

5 elements. More contrast and vibrant colors, in the warm side. Less flare. Less resolution power and corner rendering.

Rino
_________________
Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

xjjohnno

Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 1270
Location: Melbourne Australia

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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:40 am Post subject:

xjjohnno wrote: Vey decent results there Eddie.

Ivan Lee

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
Posts: 230
Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject:

Ivan Lee wrote:

estudleon wrote:

stanleytung wrote:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

The price for 21mm f4 is now crazy... but I really want to get one.....

btw, hows the quality for the 28mm 3.5 between 7 elements and 5 elements?

How can I distinguish each version?

thanks
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Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus

iangreenhalgh1

Joined: 18 Mar 2011
Posts: 15679

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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote: I just picked up one of the older version of this lens with metal focussing grip for 26ukp, decided I needed one! God knows how many 28mms I have now, at least a dozen... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it!

estudleon

Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject:

estudleon wrote:

Ivan Lee wrote:

estudleon wrote:

stanleytung wrote:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:

The price for 21mm f4 is now crazy... but I really want to get one.....

btw, hows the quality for the 28mm 3.5 between 7 elements and 5 elements?

How can I distinguish each version?

thanks

First- Look at the reflections colors of the coated. The newer has a lot of colors (green, blue, yellow) And the oldest has a brownish color.

Second- The newer 5 element has a 55mm diameter.The oldest has higher diameter.

Third-The 5 lement is shorter than the average 28 mm lenses
The 7 elemente is large as the average 28 mm leses are.

Rino
_________________
Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

iangreenhalgh1

Joined: 18 Mar 2011
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:34 am Post subject:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote: This is the one I bought, any idea if it is the 7 element version? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it!

eddieitman

Joined: 12 Apr 2011
Posts: 1246
Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:38 am Post subject:

eddieitman wrote: Ian thats the 7 element version Good price i would say http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/Objektive/e28_35Hexar.html _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot.

rafa1981

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Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 142

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:54 am Post subject:

rafa1981 wrote: Eddie, the link you posted is to the lower quality Hexar. Here is the right one: http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/Objektive/e28_35.html

iangreenhalgh1

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Posts: 15679

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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:01 am Post subject:

iangreenhalgh1 wrote: Thanks guys, horrid weather here today, but I will test it soon. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it!

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