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Nisseliten
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 332 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: Konica 40/1.8 on GF3, night shots |
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Nisseliten wrote:
I bought a brand spankin' new Panasonic GF3 last week for under 70 euro, and one of the adapters I ordered to go with it arrived today. I always had it in my mind that I would pair it nicely with the tiny Konica 40/1.8. And they do make a very cute couple, very well balanced.
Since I've been far too busy to do some testing, all I had was a few minutes on my walk home from work. I've heard good things about the konica, but I must confess I am not that impressed. I am willing to blame user error, but from the quick tests I did earlier today I never got it to be that sharp, even with stacked focus, high shutter speeds and/or flash. This evening I managed a few sharp shots, but I needed to stop down to f8 to achieve it. As for the GF3 it's too early to tell, it's an amazing camera and fantastically small, but one thing that already irks me is that in shutter priority mode, he does not change iso even if auto-iso is set to on. Meaning if I stick a long tele lens on this thing, I will either have to deal with the fact that the camera thinks I need a shutterspeed of around 125 on a 1000mm field of view equivalent lens, or I'll have to go full manual. And then I have to bring the camera down to adjust the settings as you can't hold the camera and change the settings with your thumb at the same time.
Either way, don't use these examples to judge neither the GF3 or the 40/1.8, as I still need ALOT of practice with the gear, my eye and the general ability to combine those two.
Taken in windy and cold weather, exposure times of between 25-60 seconds, different apertures. A glove was used as a "tripod".
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DSLR: Canon 550D, Panasonic DMC-GF3
SLR: Leica R3mot electronic, Leica R4s, Leica R4mot electronic. and more.
Medium Format: Many.
Lenses
Leica: 19/2.8, 35/2, 35/2.8x2, 50/2, 60/2.8 macro, 90/2, 90/2.8, 180/3.4, 250/4, 500/8 T-Noflexar 400/5.6
Other: When will it end?!
Canon: 50/1.8, 70-200 f4 IS
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:38 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Fine results under the circumstances - looks very promising for this combo. I have the Konica on a Nex 5 and like it very much. I have also just (yesterday) received the Rokkor 45/2 which looks like a real winner too.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
i wouldnt judge the lens from pictures taken in the dark. you could have a 'bad' copy, but i myself wouldnt draw conclusions from night shots. to me that camera cant handle those conditions. shoot in daylight and see what happens.
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Don't forget the Hexanon 40mm f1.8 is not at it's best WO and also will never equal the sharpness of very expensive lenses or it's brother 50mm f1.7, whether you can see the difference would be for another debate.....but I have two 40mms and they are both very good on a film camera. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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Nisseliten
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 332 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nisseliten wrote:
I am enjoying this camera immensely, being the first M4/3 camera I own. The screen is just wonderful, making the focusing not that hard at all really, except my adapter is not optimized for infinity. So shooting landscapes is a bit fiddly. I think the testshots I did in daylight yesterday was a bit premature judgement. The pictures clean up alot when you transfer them to lightroom. The IQ is most certainly "Good enough", especially considering I paid more for a basic grade point-and-shoot a year ago. The best thing is tho, this thing has full manual controls, interchangeable lenses and fits in my jacket pocket. The manual focus assist is genius. Also the extra teleconverter function is really cool. At 720p filming with the 500/8 MR-telyt on it gives me the equivalent FOV of a 3100mm lens. I could take a suprisingly sharp movie of someone sitting in their front lawn drinking coffee 3 kilometers away with no light loss. Making my 180/3.4 apo-telyt an amazingly sharp 1150/3.4 lens for filming wildlife. Tho a beanbag instead of a tripod is pretty much mandatory, and you can't pan
I think #3 might have been with the 60/2.8 macro Elmarit, others with the Konica 40/1.8
Can't wait to get the MD, FD and M42 adapters
Edit: It actually handles long exposure noise amazingly well. The biggest issue was nailing infinity focus in the dark.
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DSLR: Canon 550D, Panasonic DMC-GF3
SLR: Leica R3mot electronic, Leica R4s, Leica R4mot electronic. and more.
Medium Format: Many.
Lenses
Leica: 19/2.8, 35/2, 35/2.8x2, 50/2, 60/2.8 macro, 90/2, 90/2.8, 180/3.4, 250/4, 500/8 T-Noflexar 400/5.6
Other: When will it end?!
Canon: 50/1.8, 70-200 f4 IS
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BenediktW
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Solingen, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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BenediktW wrote:
I bought the Hexanon 40mm F1,8 2 years ago and I was really disappointed of the sharpness and colours, it all had a certain unsharpness even at F4 or F5,6, which reminded me of warm wax.
The lens itself was in very good condition and looked perfectly clean inside, so I couldn´t find an explanation. But I often wrote that people liked the lens, and their photos didn´t really look different from mine.
Soon after, I bought a Minolta MD Rokkor 45mm F2, and I was shocked of the great quality, handling convenience and the superb results. Although similarly cheap, this Rokkor - if you ask me - competes with the best Nikkors, the Contax G planar and Leica Summicron 35mm.
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Minolta MD-Rokkors: 28mm F2,8, 45mm F2
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Maybe you should use Hexanons on a film camera
Hexanon 40mm f1.8, supermarket dev and scanned to CD.
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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Nisseliten
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 332 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Nisseliten wrote:
The hexanon is actually surprisingly sharp, I think it's the jpeg conversion on the camera that was weird, when you get the raw file on the computer there is detail and iq that's close to the canon. _________________
DSLR: Canon 550D, Panasonic DMC-GF3
SLR: Leica R3mot electronic, Leica R4s, Leica R4mot electronic. and more.
Medium Format: Many.
Lenses
Leica: 19/2.8, 35/2, 35/2.8x2, 50/2, 60/2.8 macro, 90/2, 90/2.8, 180/3.4, 250/4, 500/8 T-Noflexar 400/5.6
Other: When will it end?!
Canon: 50/1.8, 70-200 f4 IS
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
I think the biggest problem with Hexanon 40/1.8 is hype. It was billed as one of the sharpest lenses ever by buhla.de, so when I got mine and it turned out less sharp and contrasty at large apertures than most of my 50, I was disappointed thinking that I've got a duff copy. After seeing many similar complaints, I am now reasonably confident that that's how this lens is.
On the other hand, taken for what it is, without "sharpest ever" expectations, this is a sweet little lens. There is also not much competition at 40mm and if one compares it with 35mm lenses rather than with ubiquitous cheap and excellent 50, the lens is a great bargain too. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Nisseliten
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 332 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nisseliten wrote:
I'm rather falling in love with the combo, especially since the GF3 has excellent long exposure noise levels and I am approaching 6 months of complete darkness. I can put it in my pocket, take it out whenever I feel an inspiration and just put it on something. I took these the other night while doing some light painting with it, 60 sec exposure at 160 iso and F/8-11 something. The first one is a practice frame with me as a ghostly apparition, and the second one has no noise reduction added. Taken with a gorillapod. There really is scary amount of detail everywhere in the RAW file. Is the Konica the sharpest lens around?. No. Is it sharp enough? Yes, especially considering the size of it.
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DSLR: Canon 550D, Panasonic DMC-GF3
SLR: Leica R3mot electronic, Leica R4s, Leica R4mot electronic. and more.
Medium Format: Many.
Lenses
Leica: 19/2.8, 35/2, 35/2.8x2, 50/2, 60/2.8 macro, 90/2, 90/2.8, 180/3.4, 250/4, 500/8 T-Noflexar 400/5.6
Other: When will it end?!
Canon: 50/1.8, 70-200 f4 IS
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