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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Is this a light leak? |
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mo wrote:
Can this be a light leak? It randomly appears across several different films.This camera has been fully serviced less than a year ago.KR10 Ricoh.I thought it may have only been on the expired kodak gold but then it appears on the Fuji 400asa as well.It's the pinkish band below the flying foxes head.
_________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Too uniform to be a light leak?
Maybe inner reflection? Is there some really shiny part, missing foam or something behind mirror? (Put the camera to B take off lens and examine the thing .. )
Did both films go thru the same process, then it could be processing error. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Were the two films sent to the lab to be developed at the same time, also looking at the negs can you see the band? A serviced camera and using two different films, it would seem to point in one direction for the problem. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I think it may have been the lab... I looked at the 3 images before this and there is a tear or scratch running through it...except along the top half of the frame.
#1
another pink band on the Fuji film
#2 I can not see the pink band on the neg
And this strange mark again on the fuji film again a different roll.
#3This mark is on the neg
I had seen all these little marks
and thought I won't worry about it but then I noticed the pink banding!
The camera has film loaded in it at the moment...I will run those off tomorrow and have a look at the seals...and what you have suggested. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
well, me in your position, i will try to shoot b&w film and develop it myself in my darkroom in by myself controlled conditions (which mean: loading film into devel tank in total darkness). or maybe try another lab. if problem will stay, its body problem. _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
More confusion #3 looks like light leak .. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I looked through a loupe only 10x magnification.#3The mark It appears on the negative (no 17) out side the frame of the picture it is green and it also appears on neg15 .I looked at the Bird photo and there is a line/mark on the negitive.
On the flying fox photo there is indeed a faint line that follows the pink banding across all frames.Lab or camera? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Well Bob I have the tank now so I may just have to start this home developing sooner than later.I have 40+ rolls of color so that might as well be the starting point. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Speaking of home developing, Mo, I used the Paterson spinner thingy for a roll yesterday, doing spin agitation only, 15 seconds every minute. Got some good negs ... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Looking at #3 it's a light leak.
Shoot 2 rolls in 2 bodies and compare. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks Paul for the agitator update.
I will try that Martin...I have a few extra bodies running around! I have a possibly a few months of a warranty on the CLA left so if it is the camera it should be covered. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I'd check the mirror foam and light seals. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
The foam all looks in good order,My only doubt is how far the mirror is sitting up in it's resting position?Is there a uniform distance(gap) from camera body to the bottom edge of the mirror itself?...I could start chasing ghosts here _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well if you have more than one camera, you can do what I do a lot.... use a roll of film over 2 to 4 cameras. Then send the film back to the lab and you will find what camera is faulty or if it's the lab.
All you need to do between each camera is to be careful when winding back, the film leader doesn't go back into the cassette and note the frame number for each camera change and add one or two on for slight spacing errors.
BTW.... of course cover the lens and viewfinder when firing the shutter to get back to the new frame numbers for each camera. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
Orange banding on colour prints usually shouts light leak to me. Exactly what I had on my Contax RTS. Half an hour and a mouse mat to fix it. _________________ Alex |
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