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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: Is this 3D enough? SMC M Pentax 50/1.4 |
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IAZA wrote:
I still learn to make 3d picture with this lens. Is this 3D enough? I need some advices please.
Thanks _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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Keysersoze27
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 466 Location: Greece
Expire: 2012-12-24
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
Been used to other lenses that produce 3D .... well I don't see any 3D in any of the pics , sorry
Try to use f2.8~f4 to maximize 3D .Also PP sharpness will help.
Don't expect any strong 3D from the SMC!!! ( I own the Asahi S-M-C one,and it's "special" in other ways) _________________ Canon EOS 5D MkII , EOS 50E, Contax RTS, Olympus OM2n, Nikon Z6ii
28mm: Zeiss Distagon 2.8/28 MMJ
35mm: CZ Distagon 2/35 ZE , S-M-C Takumar 3.5/35
40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
55mm: Fujinon 1.8/55 EBC
58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
85mm: Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 AEJ
90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
Macro:Leica Macro-Elmarit R 2.8/60, Micro-Nikkor Auto 3.5/55 Compensating type (1964) |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
funny cat shot, flower and last one show 3D _________________ T* |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I would like to know how you got the kitten off your foot with all your toes intact! I can't offer any advice on 3D...I need to learn as well _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
mo wrote: |
I would like to know how you got the kitten off your foot with all your toes intact! I can't offer any advice on 3D...I need to learn as well |
this cat is pedicure expert, he just do his job
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
Expire: 2016-07-30
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Fungus removal???( I hope you don't mind our joking IAZA?) _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
Expire: 2013-11-18
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I like the cat shot a lot!
As for 3D, I've never seen any images that appear to be 3D. Unless one is using a stereo camera or some other divice, it's just a 2D image. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
I could definitely reach into the shot with the kitten and pet it, so it's certainly 3D enough for me
It's a really great photo Suat! _________________
Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Hell, I like em all and I even have an smc pentax-m so I gotta try to do as well.
Were you wide open on those? _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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trev
Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 580 Location: North Wales - UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:34 am Post subject: |
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trev wrote:
Lovely set of pictures, regarding the flower shot which is nearly perfect, crop out that distracting yellow leaf which will improve the flowers impact no end.
Well done _________________ Fuji X10, X-A1 and Samsung nx 20 |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I saw a lot of pics of greats masters without any 3D at all. And here Cartier Bresson, Mapleton, Stieglitz are the clear examples.
As well, I saw a lot of images with 3 D and not say nathing to me. Only a oof foreground, a sharp object behind and another oof background. With a lot of greens and a vivid color object (flower, girl, pet, etc).
Nice 3 D, well. But and now what?
Not matter to me the 3 D by itself. Only like a game, yes.
My S-M-C 1,4/50 give me 3 D too, if I know how createed the circumstances adecuate for the lens to do that. I think that the 3 D is a question subject to be created by the photographer using a wide aperture ( wide open to F/2,8 or 4 according to the distances between the foreground, the object and the background). More OOF of the foreground and background, more 3D.
The correct use of the colors help too. The background with colder colors and the foreground with warm colors is the best option to do more evident the effect. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Joosep
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 305 Location: Estonia, Tallinn
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Joosep wrote:
If you want to do 3D effect then:
1) Post bigger pictures !
The bigger the picture, the simpler is to "dive" into it.
2) The element that is in focus and should "pop" out, has to be 100% ON the picture (like that cat, as the ear is cut out, the 3D effect does not happen, our mind just sees it all on one plane).
3) DoF !!!!!!! _________________ The future is analogue.
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:48 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
Thank you so much for all comments and nice words. I will practice more, based on those written above.
Wide open is on cat and last picture while flower shot @ f 5,6
I bought this firs Pentax lens after I read some posting on MFL club that suggest us to buy Takumar now. And I like this lens.
I will compare it to HFT Planar 50/1,4 soon
Ohh BTW if you want to look a bigger picture you can see here just click the picture to see bigger size
@mo, she bites me everytime i moved my foot, yeah maybe she saw some fungus or haze _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
~Suat~ |
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