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CarbonR
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 Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: Infrared shooting with S-M-C 20/4.5 (bonus included) |
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CarbonR wrote:
With R72 Hoya filter, on my K100D, with S-M-C Takumar 20/4.5 (sold in marketplace) handheld :
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Auto Takumar 35/2.3 (sold in marketplace) :
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Macro Takumar @1:1 (not sold) :
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Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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cilinderman
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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cilinderman wrote:
I really love the IR filtered ones! You just buy the filter and put in front of the lens and that's the result? That's awesome!
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LaHo
Joined: 16 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: Impressive results |
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LaHo wrote:
Impressive results, CarbonR
Pity about sensor dust on the first one, though. But IR makes for interesting images.
I have the Super-Tak 20mm F4.5 myself and like it a lot.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I also vote for IR images, they are very nice and exciting!
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
not really real, but definitely beautifull and atmospheric. please more of them!
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
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| I really love the IR filtered ones! You just buy the filter and put in front of the lens and that's the result? That's awesome! |
No, it need a little post processing, but its indeed a filter, an Hoya R72 exactly
I know for the sensor dust, but photoshop is not an esay task on a 10" laptop 
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Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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shad309
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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shad309 wrote:
Truly beautiful photos! The IR makes the scene apear as a winter wonderland.
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GrahamNR17
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Wow, I love these photos! Great work  |
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
Very Impressive  makes me think about giving it a go, it gives a whole new view on things, very cool |
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
impressive & beautiful! all great |
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CarbonR
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
And me, with S-M-C 85/1.8 in infrared :
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Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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mUg
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mUg wrote:
The 1st, 4th and 5th ones are my favourite, great framing and i love the the sensation of "air" that you can feel in the first one.
The 20 4.5 surely would be a dream on a film camera or on full format |
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rawhead
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rawhead wrote:
I've been meaning to get into IR (believe me, I will try anything! I just got through my first roll of redscale film  , but always thought that you need to mod your cam to get the best results. If you can get these with an IR filter handheld, then I see no reason to spend hundreds to get a mod...
I'm going on Ebay right now to order my 58mm IR filter :-DDD
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Jieffe
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
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I've been meaning to get into IR (believe me, I will try anything! I just got through my first roll of redscale film , but always thought that you need to mod your cam to get the best results. If you can get these with an IR filter handheld, then I see no reason to spend hundreds to get a mod...
I'm going on Ebay right now to order my 58mm IR filter :-DDD |
Not all IR filters are born equals ...
Stick with known makers (Hoya or Cokin).
DON'T be tempted to buy the cheap chinese version, you will be disappointed (I know, I was  )
Also, some DSLR are more sensible to IR than others. CarbonR's Pentax K100 is quite sensible (although the last pic was taken at 1/6 sec and I guess full aperture).
After 1 year playing with my normal DSRL, I choose to convert a P&S (a 4mpix Canon G2) which give me that kind of result :
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CarbonR
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
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| The 20 4.5 surely would be a dream on a film camera or on full format |
On APX film : http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbonr/3241526735/in/set-72157613200292026/
Nice lens, but I mostly use my Tamron 17/3.5, but it is less sharp than the Tak
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I've been meaning to get into IR (believe me, I will try anything! I just got through my first roll of redscale film , but always thought that you need to mod your cam to get the best results. If you can get these with an IR filter handheld, then I see no reason to spend hundreds to get a mod...
I'm going on Ebay right now to order my 58mm IR filter :-DDD |
Hoya R72, very good quality filter, I paid mine less than 40$ (58mm) on Ebay (seller vcc13, who sold me twice IR filters)
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Also, some DSLR are more sensible to IR than others. CarbonR's Pentax K100 is quite sensible (although the last pic was taken at 1/6 sec and I guess full aperture).
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Yes, the K100D is "very" sensitive. Between only 7-10 stops lost with IR filter. It can be used andheld with a 50mm @f/2-4 on sunny days, or a wider lens, darker. But the shot with the 85/1.8 was at f/4 or f/5.6 on tripod
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Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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lulalake
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
| Bob van Sikorski wrote: |
| not really real, but definitely beautifull and atmospheric. please more of them! |
Actually it's completely real. Your eyes just can't see into infrared. This is what it looks like all the time.
Visit my dedicated IR forum for some examples that will knock your socks off.
www.irphotocom.com
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cilinderman
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cilinderman wrote:
What would be a standard post processing in an IR photo? What is exactly what you get when you do the photo ? It really looks like an unknown world!
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lulalake
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lulalake wrote:
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| What would be a standard post processing in an IR photo? What is exactly what you get when you do the photo ? It really looks like an unknown world! |
Well, there is no standard post processing in IR world. All sensors treat IR "light" slightly differently therefore something shot with the same filter, same everything on a Nikon that is shot on a Canon or a Sigma or a Sony will be slightly to completely different.
Also each IR pass / visible light "cut" filter (roughly 600nm to about 1000nm) gives a different result from a visible-IR light mix to no visible- total IR image which will be almost a completely different version of a given scene.
What one gets, "RAW" will depend on the camera, the sensor, the filtratrion or lack of filtration, the light source, sun, flash or constant, and the content of the picture so it's literally all up for grabs.
Pines for instance reflect IR poorly so they seem dark where as oak leaves, and palm fronds reflect IR very well and seem brilliant. Certain fabric' the same and skin . .. .whew . . is a whole other ball game.
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