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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:03 pm Post subject: ID needed, is this a 7 element Hexanon 28/3.5 |
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Pontus wrote:
Hi, I'm almost sure that this lens is a 7-element Konica Hexanon 28/3.5
If so, is it a late version? The lens looks unused except for the cap which has a scratch on it. I found this one in my closet, I didn't remember I had it.
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Yes, it's a 7 element version. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
Yes, it's a 7 element version. |
+1.
Without a doubt.
Among others tips to recongnice a 7 elements, there is the follow:
If the triangle that indicate the aperture is into a ring only for it, an old 7 elements is present.
Congrats. |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: ID needed, is this a 7 element Hexanon 28/3.5 |
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papasito wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Hi, I'm almost sure that this lens is a 7-element Konica Hexanon 28/3.5
If so, is it a late version? The lens looks unused except for the cap which has a scratch on it. I found this one in my closet, I didn't remember I had it.
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The late version has the focus ring in rubber, no in metal.
Diferences? Well, perhaps the last (rubber focus ring) has better coated. The rest are the same lenses. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The 7 element version is better than the 5 element and one of the very best 28s imho. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Thanks everyone. I think there is a later 7-element version also with a rubber focusing ring. Is the newer one identical optically or does it have better coatings? I do prefer the feel of the older all metal Hexanons. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Thanks everyone. I think there is a later 7-element version also with a rubber focusing ring. Is the newer one identical optically or does it have better coatings? I do prefer the feel of the older all metal Hexanons. |
You just know this, but if not, here is
http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonHaupt.html |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The weakness of the 7 element one is it flares quite a bit, but otherwise, it's great. I sold my copy of the 5 element a couple of years ago, but from what I remember it was more flare resistant by quite a bit. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Can I have a look through your closet? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
If you want the last and best 7/7 lens here is what to look for:
http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/Objektive/e28_35.html
Hexanon AR, Focusing ring with checkered rubber inlay, Smallest aperture 16, 7 elements in 7 groups, Green AE mark, Round AE lock button, approx. 1975 _________________ Steve
Just an armadillo on the shoulder of the information superhighway. |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:44 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Easiest way to differentiate the 7/7 from a 5/5 version, only the 5/5 goes to f/22. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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RnR
Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Posts: 283 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:33 am Post subject: |
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RnR wrote:
I took a photo of my 7/7 rubber copy, but then realised that buhla already had one up there. But here it is anyways
214grams FWIW.
_________________ Currently shooting with Fuji X-E2s + Metabones Speedbooster + m42 and CY glass 💕
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
My all metal lens is 214g as well according to my kitchen scales.
Buhla states that the newest rubber ring 7/7 version is best. I read somewhere on the net that this is due to more advanced coatings. I wonder if this is really true? Has anyone ever compared an all metal lens versus the latest rubber ring version.
I don't agree with everything that Buhla says, for example I find the 57/1.4 to be a wonderful performer while Buhla saya it is only mediocre. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Can I have a look through your closet? |
Yes, if you ever visit Jakobstad, Finland. The lens was standing on three boxes of new old stock Hexanon 35/2
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konicamera
Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 746 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:42 am Post subject: Re: ID needed, is this a 7 element Hexanon 28/3.5 |
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konicamera wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Hi, I'm almost sure that this lens is a 7-element Konica Hexanon 28/3.5
If so, is it a late version? The lens looks unused except for the cap which has a scratch on it. I found this one in my closet, I didn't remember I had it. |
Pontus, yours is definitely a 7/7 model (it was probably made in August 1972).
The 7/7 model is easily recognized by the fact that its serial number is on the front of the lens. The 5/5 model has its serial number on the barrel, next to the mount.
The rubber focusing version of the 7/7 was made from early 1973 to mid-1978. It’s a time when coatings evolved greatly, so just because the lens has a rubber focusing ring does not necessarily mean that its coatings are somehow better than those of its all-metal brother made 4 months earlier. As a general rule, the later the lens, the better the coatings. Check the production code on the back of the lens for the date of manufacture: https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/3-hexanon-ar-lenses/time-of-production _________________
L'homme s'ennuie du bien, cherche le mieux, trouve le mal, et s'y soummet, crainte du pire. - Duc François-Gaston de Lévis
While it is nice to be important, it's more important to be nice.
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
My lens has the production code 2I indicating October 1972. The coating is faint and slightly purple (Color Dynamic Coating). _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3953 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
The 7 element version is better than the 5 element and one of the very best 28s imho. |
Using 24 MP FF the late 7 element AE version has sharper corners than the 5 element AE version. Otherwise they seem quite similar.
The 5 element Minolta MC / MD 3.8/28mm, however, is visibly better than my three Hexanon 3.5/28mm lenses.
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