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I just discovered the Canon "Dream" Lens
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I confess I don't understand that reasoning.


LucisPictor wrote:
Arturo wrote:
Crap. Disappointing. I can't spend that much for another camera.


If you have the money to buy that lens, you will have the money to buy another cam. Wink


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Who the hell shoots at 3200?


Me too, and occasional 6400.
What's wrong with 3200?


Inferior quality, of course. I shudder to think how bad the quality would be using 3200 with the Canon 0.95 lens.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought the Canon Dream lens was the 200/1.8.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
plasticmotif wrote:
I thought the Canon Dream lens was the 200/1.8.


Yes, or the new 200/2 IS!


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think people are misunderstanding why the OP called it the "Dream" lens. Other people have labeled it that and the name stuck. It's not just fast, desirable lenses by or for Canon. It's like saying the "Hollywood" Distagon 28. It's the "Dream" Canon 50.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
plasticmotif wrote:
I thought the Canon Dream lens was the 200/1.8.



+1. Yes!!!!!!


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I`d say that the Helios-40-2 can also be called a "dream" lens considering how funky and special the bokeh is. Prices range from 400-700USD ( which is a lot for me ) , but not several thousands as the canon 0,95 Smile


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Each brand have their own "dream" lenses.

Minolta have the 1,2/58 and the APO 2,8/200, I guess.

Zeiss have some dreams lenses ones.

The same for Leica R and M versions.

Pentax M42, the 1,9/85, the 2,5/135, etc.

And the others brands too.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
themoleman342 wrote:
I think people are misunderstanding why the OP called it the "Dream" lens. Other people have labeled it that and the name stuck. It's not just fast, desirable lenses by or for Canon. It's like saying the "Hollywood" Distagon 28. It's the "Dream" Canon 50.


Exactly. The OP has found out that "the" dream lens exists and he want's to know if there are any alternatives that would give similiar results.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So are you saying this is the 'dream' lens because of it's speed?

Seems pretty silly to me, at what aperture does this lens produce high quality, sharp results? I'm betting it's not 0.95.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The OP calls the Canon f0.95 lens the "Canon Dream Lens". This name has been adopted by others as well probably because of the dreamy effect this lens produses. Almost everyone seems to think that the OP with "dream lens" means the most desireable lens when he is only referring to a specific lens. Just like we refer to the already mentioned Holliwood or the Bokina or the Beercan.

The dream lens is expensive and hard to get by and so the OP wants to know if he has any alternatives if he needs a fast lens which draws like the Canon Dream lens.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Canon 0.95 pretty unsharp, so probably this is "dream" feature Laughing seriously not the best lens at all.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aah, I get it now, it's the 'dreamy' rendering he seeks.

I can think of many ways to get a dreamy picture, but not sure how to get the same dof as a 0.95 lens.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Then +1 for M42 Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (a few hundret €)
can be adapted without problem to any Canon DSLRs body and can produce an dreamy look

Or Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8 - very very "dreamy" close-ups!

Search here in the forum or on Flickriver.com for samples


PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quite different focal lenght and dof, but dreamy yes. Not really replacements as much as complements.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ahhh - "dream, dream, dream" went the Everly Brothers' song in the early 1960s. Photographers (well, some of them) dreamed about the Canon 50/0.95 and the Everly boys dreamed about their corporate girl friend. (Erm, is that an appropriate term? I wouldn't like to suggest any impropriety on their part.)

Forward to the past, for those of us who can remember so far back !

The original "dream" term used for the lens came either from Canon's advertising people or else from the photo press - whichever it was, the 50/0.95 was promoted as being something that previously photographers could only "dream about", namely a lens faster than f1. At the time there was also a misconception that the lens could "see" things which not even the human eye could . . . Eventually the kill-joys and spoilsports in the more sensible photo press pointed out that it was effectively no more than a third of a stop faster than the f1.2 lenses that also existed and its massive size, usability only on the Canon 7 body, high cost and truly indifferent image quality wide open made it something less than an earth-shattering barrier-breaking creation which photographers could therefore safely cease lusting after.

Back to the present, half a century later, and a new generation is cheerfully getting into a sweat about this grand old behemoth. I should indeed have kept mine Wink


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, despite all of its shortcomings, I would gladly get this one for around 300-400 Euros Laughing Otherwise, there are plenty of non-begemoth f1.2 lenses that are actually quite usable in all senses of the word.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pontus wrote:
The OP calls the Canon f0.95 lens the "Canon Dream Lens". This name has been adopted by others as well probably because of the dreamy effect this lens produses. Almost everyone seems to think that the OP with "dream lens" means the most desireable lens when he is only referring to a specific lens. Just like we refer to the already mentioned Holliwood or the Bokina or the Beercan.

The dream lens is expensive and hard to get by and so the OP wants to know if he has any alternatives if he needs a fast lens which draws like the Canon Dream lens.


"Beautiful samples" doesn't equal "dreamy rendering". He just said he liked the samples and wanted something to shoot it on. You put the 'dreamy' into the OP. His next post alludes to the rendering I guess. Twisted Evil

If it's dreamy you want, I love the Meyer trioplan 100/2.8. Onion ring bokeh + tons of character.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Never mind dreamy, that was just a guess. The point was and is that the OP is interested in the f0.95 and any other lens that behaves in a similiar way. Exactly which parameters he didn't say so I'm thinking he wants a 50mm or thereabout, very fast (short DOF) with a bokeh and rendering close to the 0.95

Everyone started telling the OP which lens they think is THE dream lens (like the 180/2) and I was reacting this.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Arturo wrote:
Is there another lens like the "dream" that I can get for EOS?


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Arturo wrote:
Is it purely the speed that gives the Canon .95 the look it has or are there other factors that can be found in other lenses


PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here's one that might go for a good price:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CANON-TV-50mm-F0-95-DREAM-LENS-LEICA-NIKON-etc-/200902287864?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item2ec6b5a1f8


PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well said, erm, written, Stephen! It seems the entire line of LTM Canon gear is going through something of a rebirth in interest, but especially the fast lenses. I owned a couple of the LTM 50/1.2s back when I bought and sold photo gear, and the same thing was said about them -- no good wide open, and just okay stopped down. And there just wasn't much demand for them because they were perceived as being inferior optically, so they pretty much appealed to collectors only, and back then there weren't many Canon LTM collectors. This resulted in quite low prices for these lenses. I think I got around $100-150 each for them. In this particular lens's case, I don't think those people knew what they were talking about because I've seen images taken with the 50/1.2 on a NEX -- here in fact -- and I'd have to say that the Canon 50/1.2 actually does a fine job, even wide open.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I must admit that I have recently looked into this lens as well.
If I were you, I would look into the Nikon NIKKOR 55mm f/1.2 AI. They are by all means pretty easy optics to come across...
I got lucky and got mine in pristine and excellent cosmetic/working condition for $150 USD (excluding the cost of the Fotodiox Nikon to EOS Adapter with Dandelion AF Focus Confirmation Chip).
Attached are two sample images...one a self-portrait. The other, a picture taken by a friend of mine.
Looks pretty 'dreamy' to me wide open:
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