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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: Hoya Lenses |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
What are Hoya lenses like? Any gems in there, in particular the wider lenses? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 569
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
see tokina lenses because hoya lenses are and were mainly manufactured by tokina (and now tokina is part of hoya) _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Compared to others this one semms to be a good one : http://www.pbase.com/steephill/image/38667685 / http://www.pbase.com/steephill/28mms
Maybe other ones are in the same league (often I saw the 135mm f:2.8 lens - same, silver aperture ring - in different mount too, on ebay with a final price around ~20-25 GBP ). _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I've got two, one is OK (Hoya HMC Macro 3.8/80-205, but I only know it on film, it's an FD lens) and the other one is pretty good (Hoya HMC 3.5/25-42 Zoom&Macro, but the Tokina AT-X 2.8/24-40 is clearly better). _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Hoya lenses were never sold in japanese market, only exported to
mainly Europe. The list is (from my friend) >
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/HOYA_HMC_LENS.html _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
Lenses: https://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/top_level_my_lenses |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
I have the 135/2.8 in K mount, rather poor lens _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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ryan s
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 384 Location: Madison, WI
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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ryan s wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I've got two, one is OK (Hoya HMC Macro 3.8/80-205, but I only know it on film, it's an FD lens) |
My dad has this in Vivitar labeling and M42 mount...although I'm not sure about the macro part.
Big lens, pretty heavy...so-so image quality. I'd rather lug around the Tamron 19AH... _________________ Pentax Bodies: K10D + D-BG2 | MX |
M: Zenitar 16/2.8 | 28/2.8 | 50/1.7 | M39: Mir-1 GP 37/2.8 M42: Vivitar 28/2.5 AD2: Tamron SP Macro 90/2.5 |
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Aykman
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Aykman wrote:
this message is outdated and deleted!
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alelinuxbsd
Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
CarbonR wrote: |
I have the 135/2.8 in K mount, rather poor lens |
But have you an HMC lens or not? |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
Yes, it was a HMC version, it seems to be a 3/3 formula.. _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
FWIW, from Modern Photo tests in 1978:
Hoya 28mm f/2.8 HMC Wide-Auto. Min focuse .3m (12in). 7 element design. Slight overcorrection for spherical aberration, quite normal for these wide angle lenses, but no other faults, no axial color, nice round point image. Color transparencies... the clean contrast and sharpness of detail reminded us of the high quality older 28mm lenses from the most prestigious manufacturers. The resolution #s are 54 center at all apertures (60 at f/11) with edge going rom 43 to 54 lines/mm by f/8.
Hoya HMC Tele-Auto 135mm f/2.8. Min focus 1.5m. 4 elements. Slight overcorrected spherical, moderate green flare, some zonal aberration. f/5.6 is the critial stop. Slides show slight softness wide open. By f/4 center/edge excellent, corners sharpen up by f/8.
Hoya HMC Zoom 25-42 f/3.5
Min focus .8m, On axis slight red flare... Slides show off axis hint of softness at f/3.5,... resolution shows 'excellent' at all focal lengths in the center, getting 68 lpmm at f/5.6-f/8 at 25mm and 32, 60lpmm at 42. Edges hold up pretty well to, and this is one of the few lenses that seems to get even a medium in the contrast tests. _________________ -Jussi
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alelinuxbsd
Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
Aykman wrote: |
Hi,
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3) The quality of the Hoya HMC lenses were very good.......the Zooms are like Komura Zooms very good........I would say the same league as Vivitar Series 1 and Kiron.
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4) 135mm and 200mm were tested in germany between 1977-1980 and the results were good slightly under the 1st Class brands like Canon, Nikon, Minolta MD and pentax. The Zooms were really good and compete with the 1st class brands.
Hoya lenses are rare and some older ones are only single coated.....the multicoated version are very good.
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Why the opinion on this len are so different?
Very good vs very bad. |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
alelinuxbsd wrote: |
Why the opinion on this len are so different?
Very good vs very bad. |
Well, there are several reasons. Firstly,we all make our own judgements based on what we've had ourselves. Secondly, sometimes we make judgements on the basis of what we've read or been told. But most importantly - though sadly - the quality of lenses always did (and still does) vary from time to time and from model to model, even from the same maker.
Between the 60s and the 90s, lens selling was a highly competitive business and the chief motivator for makers and vendors (who were often not the same people) was profit. Leitz, Nikon and Zeiss and may have checked every lens, but the high volume makers did not budget for a large inspection department and relied on automated machinery producing standardised components which would fit together reliably enough to satisfy the demands of what was then essentially an uncritical market.
Machine tools weren't checked that often, and tolerances could run right up to, or even beyond, the limits specified in the design before adjustments were made. That's why individual lenses vary even when coming from the same maker.
It may be hard to admit, but the name on the relatively inexpensive Japanese lenses is not really any guarantee of quality. Sometimes we get a lens which is superb, usuallywe have one which works very well, and - relatively rarely - we get a really, really bad one. And many of us will tell you that we've had rotten ones with the most respected names on them ! _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
I've already posted a test between 6 135mm lenses (one zoom lens, 5 primes) :
(click to get 2000x2000 version, all are 100% crops)
_________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
CarbonR wrote: |
I've already posted a test between 6 135mm lenses (one zoom lens, 5 primes) :
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Er, the zoom looks to be doing quite well ... _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
For me it's a surprise that the Hoya HMC lenses were so good. Here were badly considered, and very cheap in the 80's. The same happened with the mamiya lenses and cams.
Till just a short time back, they were give free with the used cam to sell.
It seems to me that I lost something.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The test shows the Hoya images brighter. I would be interested in seeing the test as a level playing field. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
My opinion for the 50-200 : it's a zoom (yes, indeed !), at approximatively middle range, so at his best compromises. At extreme focal lenghts, it would be not s good as this _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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alelinuxbsd
Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
CarbonR I think in your test is possible understand well how good is the multi coating of smc compared with other lenses given the situation of the object.
This is the situation after apply a High Pass Filter and play with the color level in Gimp.
Clear isn't as good as the takumar but i think now is a little more better then before.
At f/4 the result are similar at the takumar super f/2.5 probably because this model has a less effective coated. |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
The test shows the Hoya images brighter. |
Are you sure? More flare, certainly. I think my money's on the zoom ... unless it's the recent AF one which gets such lousy reviews, in which case it can't be any good - _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
The test shows the Hoya images brighter. I would be interested in seeing the test as a level playing field. |
The shutter speeds were not fixed, that explain the exposure differences _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
Expire: 2014-04-21
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
***Er, the zoom looks to be doing quite well***
Which is more reason to test your own lenses out in practice and not believe everything written on a bit of paper.
I've done quite a few tests comparing my Kiron 80-200 f4 to a Canon 200mm prime f4 and at 200mm the Kiron is slightly better for sharpness. So why carry my Canon 200mm around when a zoom is more versatile. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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zohairi
Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 11 Location: Penang Malaysia
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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zohairi wrote:
i have one! Hoya HMC 400mm f5.6 any idea with this lens? _________________ Camera : Nikon D90, Nikon F401s, Canon AL-1, TLR Seagull, Minolta, Konica Autoreflex TC, Zopkuu 4, Yashica FX 3 super, Cosina CT 1A
manual lens : Tamron 28mm f2.5 Adaptall 2>>Tamron SP90 f2.5 Adaptall 2>>Tamron 200mm f3.5 adaptall 2>>vivitar 135mm f2.8>>Helios-44M 55mm f2>> Jupiter 8 50mm f2>>Jupiter 9 85mm f2 >>Pentacon 50mm f1.8>>Hoya 90mm f2.5>>Hoya 400mm f5.6
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I have a 70-260 that is not bad, made by Tokina and I have a 200mm which is very sharp but has quite bad CA wide open and I'm note sure who made it.
At least one of their zooms is made by Ozone. _________________ - Dave
www.lensporn.net
www.flickr.com/photos/fatdeeman/
DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
I still have a Hoya MHC 28/2.8 (Konica mount) in my possession, but not for long. In about an hour I will ship it to its new owner in Kazakhstan, along with a K/AR-mount Kenko KFT 3x TC. I have no idea of their optical quality, having had no camera upon which to test them. I hope the new owner likes them. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald
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