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sichko
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 Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: Hippeastrum - Nikon E 2.8/100, Nikon E 1.8/50 & Mir 24N |
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sichko wrote:
Although I like plants I'm not alway successful at growing them. One approach is to buy bulbs - you simply plant them and they grow. The Hippeastrum (commonly called Amaryllis) is very popular at this time of year. This one is called 'Exotic Star'. I took it outside and placed it on top of a step-ladder in order to obtain a 'blue-sky' background. So the shots are taken from below the flowers which are about 2m high. Unfortunately the cloud started to move in, and the sun moved more quickly than I had anticipated, as I moved from one lens to another.
Nikon D60, all shots at f/8, RAW capture with PP in PSE 5.
Nikon E 2.8/100
Nikon E 1.8/50
Mir 24N 2/35
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Very nice samples John. I am most surprised by the 50/1.8 series E - the other two lenses are known to be superb value, offering much better quality than their prices suggest. Here is the same flower by natural indoor light and with the flek 35/2.4
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no-X
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Hippeastrum - Nikon E 2.8/100, Nikon E 1.8/50 & Mir |
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I like this one 
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
Thanks Patrick & no-X. I received the Nikon 100 only yesterday and the 50 a few days earlier. However initial impressions - in terms of handling - are favourable. So these pictures were simply a "try out". The Mir picture may work better because of the greater DOF the lens offers.
Patrick - I think that your Hippeastrum might be called "Minerva". I had one of these, or one very similar, in flower before Christmas. But the only pictures I have were with flash - which gives somewhat different colours.
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trifox wrote:
wow ! my favourite is MIR !!
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
Thanks tf. Here's another one with the Mir - but the light was beginning to go at this stage- I should probably have used a little fill-in flash..
... and one from the beginning of the session withe The Nikon E 100 - and with trees in the background...
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Ballu wrote:
I own Nikon E 100mm, and found that very sharp, great lens in this FL.
But results are showing MIR's strength. Doesnt look very sharp (comparative statement), but colors/contrast rendering, seems winner to me...
Could you post more vegetation/floral pics with MIR...
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sichko
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
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Doesnt look very sharp (comparative statement), but colors/contrast rendering, seems winner to me...
Could you post more vegetation/floral pics with MIR... |
I know what you mean. Here's a comparison between 4 lenses I carried out just before Christmas...subject is Hippeastrum 'Minerva'...
 
 
Top Left Arsat N 2.8/20
Top Right CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35 + Kood adapter
Bottom Left Mir 24 2/35
Bottom Right Mir 38 3.5/65
All at f/8 + flash. Distance from the flower was adjusted to fill the frame. The Kood adapter acts as a weak teleconverter making the Flek into effectively ~ 40 mm. So the two longer lenses (both on right) were used further away from the flower than those on the left. For those on the left, my body shielded the flower from the room lighting. I think that this accounts for the colour differences.
Sharpness is very similar for the 4 lenses.
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sichko
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Could you post more vegetation/floral pics with MIR... |
Pictures taken with the Mir24 2/35 on Nikon D40x. All at f/8 except number 5 which is f/11.
1. Dahlia 'Martina'
2. Stokesia laevis
3. Brassia 'Rex'
4. Bougainvillea
5. Narcissus 'Paper White Inbal'
6. Plane tree
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Excellent shots!!! |
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I loved this one!
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horvlas wrote:
The most beautiful flower pictures I've ever seen! |
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sichko wrote:
Thanks guys.
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trifox wrote:
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I loved this one! |
So do I!!
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ChrisLilley wrote:
It took me a while to appreciate the qualities of the Mir-24. I initially dismissed it as soft. But it grows on you.
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Ballu wrote:
MIR-24 seems like very interesting lens, esp for wolds/outdoors... Usually captured stopped down, wide open softness should not be a big issue in these scenarios....
Thanks for posting pics...
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sichko wrote:
Thanks tf.
Chis & Ballu - the Mir 24 is not the sharpest 35 mm lens that I've had. I'm sure that the CZJ 2.4/35, and even the Mir 1(B) 2.8/37, are sharper. But at f/8 it's "sharp enough". My copy has some etching on an internal element - possibly a manufacturing default or maybe the results of cleaning after fungal infection. In addition there is a tremendous recoil when one takes the shot. Hopefully this happens after the shutter has closed but if it's taking place before the shutter has opened there will be some residual vibration left during the exposure.
A new Hippeastrum has just opened so perhaps I'll try it wide open !
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| In addition there is a tremendous recoil when one takes the shot. Hopefully this happens after the shutter has closed but if it's taking place before the shutter has opened there will be some residual vibration left during the exposure. |
Yes, I had noticed that. You can really feel the lens resonate in your hand like a bell when struck.
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