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tikkathree
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 755 Location: Lovely Suffolk in Great Britain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: Here's the Noob's quick MF 50mm Lens comparison |
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tikkathree wrote:
Okay, so here's the proof of what happens when you set four lenses against each other in Manual Focus, the three M42 lenses being connected via a focus confirm adapter of cheap and cheerful EBay quality.
The 50mm lenses I've got are as follows:
Pentacon f/1.8
Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.8
Super Takumar f/1.4
Canon EF f/1.4
In order to give comparable results I tested them all in manual focus at f/2.8. I tested the Canon EF in both Manual and Auto Focus. I also tested the lenses which are wider than f/2.8 at their widest setting.
It seemed to me that what I wanted to see most was how their results differed straight from the camera and before processing. Accordingly I set up some flowers in the dappled shade of a birch tree and with some background subject matter so that I could see any differences in the bokeh. I didn't spend a lot of time tweaking camera settings, merely put the 5D on a tripod, selected my focus point, put the Pentacon on first, found a reasonable shutter speed for it at f/1.8 and fired away with the same shutter speed throughout the Manual Focus test shots. I realise that there might be some glare off the white petals but I wanted this to be a tough test rather than the creation of some pretty pictures. All I have done is convert the images from RAW to Jpeg: no pp, sharpening or tweaking. These are as they came off the CF card.
With hindsight I wish I'd set my shutter speed for the test with an aperture of f/2.8 but then this isn't life and death.
I can't wait to see what you guys think and in the meantime I'll be busy trying to decide whether I have any preferences and why.
Here then are the results:
Pentacon f/1.8 @ f/2.8
Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.8 @ f/2.8
Super Takumar f/1.4 @ f/2.8
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 @ f/2.8 Manual Focus
and the same lens at the same settings in AF mode
And for interest, the faster lenses at their widest settings:
Pentacon f/1.8 @ f/1.8
Super Takumar f/1.4 @ f/1.4
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 @ f/1.4 in Manual Mode
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I see no differences , how about you ? _________________ -------------------------------
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
I find the background of the C Zeiss the most pleasing. _________________ Ron
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
revers wrote: |
I find the background of the C Zeiss the most pleasing. |
Yes, thanks Ron. Much less busy than on others. _________________ -------------------------------
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Attila wrote: |
revers wrote: |
I find the background of the C Zeiss the most pleasing. |
Yes, thanks Ron. Much less busy than on others. |
+1 _________________
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Of the faster lenses shot wide open, I prefer the bokeh of the Canon EF. It's softer, and the exposure also seems to be more accurate. _________________ Michael
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The Canon does the best job of making the background clearer, which is what I'd expect, the technology has moved on from the old manual lenses.
I've just bought a Pentacon 50 1.8, but haven't really tried it yet. But it seems ok, not as good as my Helios though.
Interesting comparisons though. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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vulko
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: |
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vulko wrote:
You should make the exposure same for all pics. So we can compare. Or shoot in M mode. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hard to judge on these shots, since they show a different exposure. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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trev
Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 580 Location: North Wales - UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:41 am Post subject: |
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trev wrote:
Most definitely the Tessar in the first set of piccies and a MOST definitely for the canon 1.4 @1.4 in the second set _________________ Fuji X10, X-A1 and Samsung nx 20 |
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tikkathree
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 755 Location: Lovely Suffolk in Great Britain
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:00 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
vulko wrote: |
You should make the exposure same for all pics. So we can compare. Or shoot in M mode. |
Yes, I agree and that would make for another test.
What these images show is the different exposures selected by the camera for the same aperture. _________________ I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
Differing exposures are the most obvious characteristic separating the images, but to my eyes, the Tessar is far and away the most pleasing in the out of focus planes. _________________ Alex |
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