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 Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: Helios 77-K4 Samples |
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Poolhall wrote:
Helios 77-K4 50mm f1.8 samples.
This is not a common lens, it comes in Pentax K mount and is also available in m42 mount as the Helios 77-M4, apparently it is an ultron design, not a biotar like the Helios 44. Mine is from 1991 serial 9112490 and is the only example of this lens I have ever seen, and came fitted to a 1994 Zenit AM2.
F5.6 not cropped
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Chris Watson wrote:
Very nice pics there! Based on these photos, I'm assuming the trademark Helios swirl is not present in this version?
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fish4570 wrote:
impressive ... 
the mc helios 77m in m42 mount is available on ebay for about $55 ...
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mo wrote:
#3 for me what a great shot the swan looks extra amazing on it's nest.Any more of the swan on the nest?
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Poolhall
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Afaik there are no swirlies with this Helios -or I didnt manage to find any, its the first time I used it . (Btw the 'M' version of the lens is auto only so to use it other than wide open it has to be modified or fitted to a flanged adapter to engage the push pin.)
For you Mo- a couple more of the Swan first with the Telear 200/3.5 and the second was, I think, the Jupiter37AM
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xjjohnno wrote:
Now I'm feeling guilty for not having taken out my Helios 77 recently. Lovely pics Poolhall. |
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mo wrote:
Thanks...I have never seen a photo of a swan nesting.You are lucky to have that pond where you live. Will you be around when the little ones are hatched?
I like the Telear shot but the other one is too dark, bad light?
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Poolhall wrote:
Thanks Mo -yes hopefully I will get some of the cygnets-assuming there are any as this Swan seems to be on its own I have yet to see a partner.
The second pic is a bit dark as I did no pp to it so here's a slightly edited version lightened up a bit in camera raw
I think you are right it looks much better lighter |
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mo wrote:
Big difference...amazing what you can do with PP.I hope it has a partner ...maybe the nest is the attraction..."owns own home come and check it out! "
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Pancolart wrote:
Helios 1.8/50mm does swirl. Sadly at the moment i can only find one crappy sample on my disk. 
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Poolhall wrote:
Nice one ! I had a feeling it might as I have managed to get some swirls with the Zenitar M2/K2 50/2 before and its a very similar lens thanks for showing that any idea of the aperture? I presume it was wide open? |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Helios 77-K4 Samples |
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| Poolhall wrote: |
Helios 77-K4 50mm f1.8 samples.
This is not a common lens, it comes in Pentax K mount and is also available in m42 mount as the Helios 77-M4, apparently it is an ultron design, not a biotar like the Helios 44. Mine is from 1991 serial 9112490 and is the only example of this lens I have ever seen, and came fitted to a 1994 Zenit AM2.
F5.6 not cropped
F5.6 cropped
F16 not cropped
F4 cropped
F11 not cropped
F8 cropped
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Nice shots, especially No.1. Maybe spring has finally sprung!
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Poolhall wrote:
My hay fever says it has all right Ed...lol Thanks for the comments all |
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| Nice one ! I had a feeling it might as I have managed to get some swirls with the Zenitar M2/K2 50/2 before and its a very similar lens thanks for showing that any idea of the aperture? I presume it was wide open? |
Wide open for sure. I'll make new samples asap.
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rbelyell wrote:
lovely deep deep colors.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 77-K4 Samples |
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| Helios 77-K4 50mm f1.8 ... apparently it is an ultron design, not a biotar like the Helios 44. |
All Helioses are planars. This particular also has 6 lenses in 4 groups. Rumors say this is just a copy of Meyer Oreston/Pentacon 50/1.8 lens. But we will never know probably. |
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Poolhall wrote:
You may well be right Dmitrygo I was confusing the Helios 77 with the Zenitar 1.7/50 which is an Ultron design. According to our friend No-X in his lists of lens types the Helios 44,77 and Zenitar 2/50 are all Biotar/Xenon types or assymetric planars, as is the Meyer /Pentacon 1.8/50, so the rumour that it is a copy is quite possibly true. Thanks for the info! |
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Pancolart wrote:
Here some more samples of bokeh. Taken at low light two hours ago.
All wide open. I post many samples to let you see the conditions required for the effect.
Sorry for that toning again. Swirly or not?
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Poolhall wrote:
definite swirlies there thanks a lot for the proof |
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