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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:57 am Post subject: Heads Up - Eight 35-70mm Lenses Compared |
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Tesselator wrote:
So a few days ago I climbed the mountain! Unfortunately I didn't find a burning bush. Fortunately I did find a shinto gong-hut. That was fortunate because I had brought my GH2 and eight different 35-70mm lenses and was looking for something to do a comparison test on. Maybe next time on the burning bush? Well at least I recently got to hear Moses's living descendant on the radio: Here - 1, Here - 2, and Here - 3 which I thought was thoroughly fascinating and a half.
Whatever, on with the comparison results:
First the 100% crops, SOOC JPeg conversions, No PP:
Nikkor_35-70_f3.5, 35mm, F/5.6
Nikkor_35-70_f2.8D, 35mm, F/5.6
Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f3.6, 35mm, F/5.6
Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f4.0, 35mm, F/5.6
Sigma_AF_Zoom-Master_35-70_f3.5-4.5, 35mm, F/5.6
Canon_FD_35-70_f4.0 35mm, F/5.6
Canon_FD_35-70_f2.8-3.5, 35mm, F/5.6
Tamron_35-70mm_f3.5_17A ,35mm, F/5.6
Nikkor_35-70_f3.5, 70mm, f/5.6
Nikkor_35-70_f2.8D, 70mm, f/5.6
Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f3.6, 70mm, f/5.6
Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f4.0, 70mm, f/5.6
Sigma_AF_Zoom-Master_35-70_f3.5-4.5, 70mm, f/5.6
Canon_FD_35-70_f4.0, 70mm, f/5.6
Canon_FD_35-70_f2.8-3.5, 70mm, f/5.6
Tamron_35-70mm_f3.5_17A
I'll post the SOOC + scaled versions in link format with just one set in-line so you can see what composition looks like:
35mm F/5.6, GH2, Base ISO, SOOC + Scaling.
70mm F/5.6, GH2, Base ISO, SOOC + Scaling.
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020012_Nikkor_35-70_f3.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020013_Nikkor_35-70_f3.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020014_Nikkor_35-70_f2.8D.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020015_Nikkor_35-70_f2.8D.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020016_Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f3.6.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020017_Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f3.6.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020018_Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f4.0.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020019_Olympus_Zuiko_35-70_f4.0.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020020_Sigma_AF_Zoom-Master_35-70_f3.5-4.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020021_Sigma_AF_Zoom-Master_35-70_f3.5-4.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020022_Canon_FD_35-70_f4.0.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020023_Canon_FD_35-70_f4.0.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020024_Canon_FD_35-70_f2.8-3.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020025_Canon_FD_35-70_f2.8-3.5.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020026_Tamron_35-70mm_f3.5_17A.jpg
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/Temporary/35-70mm_Compare_8/Scale_1020027_Tamron_35-70mm_f3.5_17A.jpg
And if you wanna see the full sized SOOC JPeg converted images just go to the root and click on the ones that start with "Full_" here. I really have no idea why I did this. It's probably safer in my case than trying to approach a burning bush! And it gave me something to do that afternoon! Maybe someone will get something out of it. <shrug> |
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
No comments? |
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enliten
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Posts: 201 Location: Perth, WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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enliten wrote:
To me they all look very similar except for the Sigma. The suprise packet (to me) appears to be the Tamron.
I like the Canon the best (I may be a bit biased), the Olympus and the Nikkor seem very similar. _________________ www.craftedbyben.com
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Excalibur
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
erm shame you didn't have the Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 as it's a very good lens (on film).
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I first thought you were comparing lenses in the 35mm to 70mm range as having eight zooms was unlikely. You proved me wrong. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for that test!
enliten wrote: |
The suprise packet (to me) appears to be the Tamron.
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No surprise for me. Tamron zooms are really good! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
I first thought you were comparing lenses in the 35mm to 70mm range as having eight zooms was unlikely. You proved me wrong. |
http://forum.mflenses.com/what-are-the-biggest-bargains-you-have-found-t27202,start,930.html#1249997 |
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
erm shame you didn't have the Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 as it's a very good lens (on film).
Supermarket dev and scanned to CD
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I left it at home. I ran out of pockets for the hike up.
Nice image, thanks! It does look pretty good. Next time I'll leave the sigma and bring the Rokkor! |
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Thanks for that test! |
NP Bro!
Thank you! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
[quote="Tesselator"]
Excalibur wrote: |
erm shame you didn't have the Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 as it's a very good lens (on film).
I left it at home. I ran out of pockets for the hike up.
Nice image, thanks! It does look pretty good. Next time I'll leave the sigma and bring the Rokkor! |
Thanks...The Minolta does give nice results and I only got this zoom because a thread said it's the same as the Leica and was lucky to pick it up at a boot sale for £5 _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3245 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
On my screen, Zuiko seems to be the best, followed by Canon. Nikkor on 3rd position. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
They all look similar to me apart from the Sigma which looks crap, not surprised, I had it and it is crap. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
They all look similar to me apart from the Sigma which looks crap, not surprised, I had it and it is crap. |
If you place them in layers or stacked browser tabs and switch back and forth you can see the differences. Most of the lenses here are pretty good and these were all shot at f/5.6 so there aren't a whole lot of differences. But switching as suggested will reveal differences in color, micro-contrast, and sharpness between almost all of them. Such things are important when post processing for screen or print. So for example if I were to process all these in the same way you would directly see more of the differences. |
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aleksanderpolo
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 684
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
Come on Bif, it's not a 35-70 comparison without the Vario-Sonnar. |
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Tesselator
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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