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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: Got cheated by sun*shine*girl |
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kds315* wrote:
Bought a set of LEICA parts and most importantly a FOCOTAR enlarger lens with that.
Seller sun*shine*girl took about two weeks to get it shipped with tons of long winded
explainations ("shipped but came back" etc.), then after putting some pressure on her
it gets finally shipped. Once I collected it from the customs offic here after shelling
out some $60, I opened it there to find out that the lens was missing in the unopened
package!!
Complained to her right after return home and got a "it was there when I packed it"
yada yada, again long winded response.
She promised to look after it, but of course no response and after some time, filed a
ebay complaint, then she gets upset as the funds "were taking out her paypal account
which now is negative".
She promised to find me a replacements lens, but no response as expected actually....
So after further 5 days, ebay refunds completely and closes the case, but still I have
lost $60 and quite a bit nerves...
NEVER EVER AGAIN WITH "sun*shine*girl" !!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
A bit amazed that she has not been kicked off ebay yet - they are very tough on sellers like that. You should still leave a negative feedback.
PS. The real robbery is $60 duty on $180 purchase. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:12 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Certainly there will be a negative rating!! On Optics here in Germany there is a 25% import tax (19% VAT + 6% on optics), VAT also on the shipping cost!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
I feel blessed. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:42 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well, the miracle about the disappeared from my package Focotar 100mm lens
fially came to light. A few days ago the lens appears on ebay by a professional
seller here Click here to see on Ebay at an outrageous price. So obviously
my seller was either contacted after I won and got a ridiculous offer, so could
not resist cheating me, or was searching sellers while withholding my package
for nearly two weeks ("package came back, had to ship it again...") until she
found someone who was willing to quickly buy....
Just shows how much greed there is around...
Btw, that also puts seller "leica-post" in some rather strange light... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7588 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I have encounter a similar case in the past. The seller told me the lens is broken after I won the lens. After few months, the lens appear on eBay with the exact SN for much more. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
I have encounter a similar case in the past. The seller told me the lens is broken after I won the lens. After few months, the lens appear on eBay with the exact SN for much more. |
Unfortunately the paid taxes (approx $60) are a loss... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7588 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
I have encounter a similar case in the past. The seller told me the lens is broken after I won the lens. After few months, the lens appear on eBay with the exact SN for much more. |
Unfortunately the paid taxes (approx $60) are a loss... |
I lost small amount of money due to currency conversion too. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:57 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I think after seeing this outcome, she/he needs to go in the sellers to avoid thread.....outright dishonesty.You buy a group of items and expect to get all the items. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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ks73
Joined: 14 Oct 2015 Posts: 45 Location: Kokkola, Finland
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:24 am Post subject: |
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ks73 wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
I have encounter a similar case in the past. The seller told me the lens is broken after I won the lens. After few months, the lens appear on eBay with the exact SN for much more. |
Unfortunately the paid taxes (approx $60) are a loss... |
In Finland we can apply for customs and tax office to return the overpaid costs. You have to send papers about original payment and refund, then it takes about three months for office to handle the request. Could it be that you have similar system in Germany? _________________ Kalle
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/140575793@N08/ |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ks73 wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
I have encounter a similar case in the past. The seller told me the lens is broken after I won the lens. After few months, the lens appear on eBay with the exact SN for much more. |
Unfortunately the paid taxes (approx $60) are a loss... |
In Finland we can apply for customs and tax office to return the overpaid costs. You have to send papers about original payment and refund, then it takes about three months for office to handle the request. Could it be that you have similar system in Germany? |
I thought about trying that, but the paperwork and time demands are very high here in Germany. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Just ONE negative experience ... doesn't give one the right |
I disagree. It's one thing when you get screwed because a seller is ignorant or inexperienced, and it's completely another when a seller knows exactly what he/she is doing. Moral flexibility of this sort tends to extend beyond one single transaction. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
Himself wrote: |
Just ONE negative experience ... doesn't give one the right |
I disagree. It's one thing when you get screwed because a seller is ignorant or inexperienced, and it's completely another when a seller knows exactly what he/she is doing. Moral flexibility of this sort tends to extend beyond one single transaction. |
It is about individual sellers vs companies: a single seller misbehaving is of much higher importance (also percentage wsie)
than a professional seller with 10 thousands of ratings and a few bad marks
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It was meant to inform, not to discuss
********* thread locked ********** _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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