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Attila
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: Fujica ST801 |
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Attila wrote:
Lightmeter is works, but not accurate. Any experience ? _________________ -------------------------------
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themoleman342
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Inaccurate how?
Reading several stops high seems to be a common problem with this camera model. You can either open it up and readjust it manually or set the film speed two (or however many) stops lower on the dial. So for this example, 100 speed film would be set at around 25asa on the camera. See if that works for you. |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Inaccurate how?
Reading several stops high seems to be a common problem with this camera model. You can either open it up and readjust it manually or set the film speed two (or however many) stops lower on the dial. So for this example, 100 speed film would be set at around 25asa on the camera. See if that works for you. |
Yes , this is happen show false low value. Perhaps re-adjusting the best idea so you have any link about adjusting ? _________________ -------------------------------
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themoleman342
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
These are directions for solving issues on the st701: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/fujica/top1/st701_battery_fix.htm
I can't be sure whether any of the information is applicable. If the system is the same, then making the necessary compensation does not appear very difficult.
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks! _________________ -------------------------------
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Minolfan
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I think that the solution for the ST701 doesn't fit for the ST801. The ST701 was built for a mercury battery, the ST801 needs a 6V silver battery. So the recipe for adjusting the camera for use of a silver battery is probably not the way to go. May be the battery is nearly exhausted or the contacts are not clean enough? |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
I think that the solution for the ST701 doesn't fit for the ST801. The ST701 was built for a mercury battery, the ST801 needs a 6V silver battery. So the recipe for adjusting the camera for use of a silver battery is probably not the way to go. May be the battery is nearly exhausted or the contacts are not clean enough? |
Also a good advice I will check it out thanks! _________________ -------------------------------
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themoleman342
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I know the intention of the st701 vs. the st801. But essentially what the procedure offers is to recalibrate for a meter that consistently reads a certain degree off, irregardless of whether the power is 1.35v, 6v, or nuclear. If Attila's meter is erratic, then this won't work. But if it reads something consistently off, I don't see a reason why this wouldn't, other than a complete change in the internals of the two cameras.
But yes, the battery should be checked along with the contacts before anything is done as this is a semi-permanent solution. I thought that went without saying. This is a last resort strategy to be sure. |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I believe this is logical if I lucky there is a potentiometer to adjust light meter. _________________ -------------------------------
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estudleon
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
i had the same problem in my ST 801: erratic meter.
No technical man wanted to take this to repair, because they were afraid that to open the cam would damage the old contacts, etc.
The technician Not so workers here.
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
i had the same problem in my ST 801: erratic meter.
No technical man wanted to take this to repair, because they were afraid that to open the cam would damage the old contacts, etc.
The technician Not so workers here.
Rino |
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syscrusher
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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syscrusher wrote:
Just got an ST801, having meter issues.
The meter leds do light up, but it is metering very strangely.
I am using a 6V Alkaline battery (new) - am I wrong in presuming this will make little difference compared to a silver oxide battery? |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
syscrusher wrote: |
Just got an ST801, having meter issues.
The meter leds do light up, but it is metering very strangely.
I am using a 6V Alkaline battery (new) - am I wrong in presuming this will make little difference compared to a silver oxide battery? |
Perhaps this is the reason why all of them have trouble 4x1,35 lot less than 4x1.5V I am using hearing aid batteries successfully in my light meter. This is my mercury battery replacement solution. MIght be I will give it a try to check hearing aid cells in ST801. _________________ -------------------------------
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syscrusher
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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syscrusher wrote:
Forgive my ignorance - it appears the problem on the user side of the viewfinder.
Long story short - I should have read the manual more thoroughly...
Specifically the part beginning with "If you are using a lens other than one of the Fujinon interchangeable designed for the ST801"...
All appears to be well (apart from the light seals). |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
syscrusher wrote: |
Forgive my ignorance - it appears the problem on the user side of the viewfinder.
Long story short - I should have read the manual more thoroughly...
Specifically the part beginning with "If you are using a lens other than one of the Fujinon interchangeable designed for the ST801"...
All appears to be well (apart from the light seals). |
Works trouble free now I had to set as described in manual. Many, many thanks!
Image taken from www.butkus.org you able to find many free camera manuals there. _________________ -------------------------------
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themoleman342
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Haha, oh jeeze...we always think we know everything after handling a couple old SLRs but there are always those little quirks.
Glad it was solved! |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Haha, oh jeeze...we always think we know everything after handling a couple old SLRs but there are always those little quirks.
Glad it was solved! |
Exactly . _________________ -------------------------------
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syscrusher
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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syscrusher wrote:
All's well that ends well!
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
syscrusher wrote: |
All's well that ends well!
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YES! You made my day! Thanks again! _________________ -------------------------------
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Ron wrote:
Attila wrote: |
syscrusher wrote: |
Forgive my ignorance - it appears the problem on the user side of the viewfinder.
Long story short - I should have read the manual more thoroughly...
Specifically the part beginning with "If you are using a lens other than one of the Fujinon interchangeable designed for the ST801"...
All appears to be well (apart from the light seals). |
Works trouble free now I had to set as described in manual. Many, many thanks!
Image taken from www.butkus.org you able to find many free camera manuals there. |
Resurrecting this old thread to say thanks, I had also missed the part on locking the DFB when using other lenses and thought the meter was shot but now it gives me perfect readings. |
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