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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tb_a wrote:
The question is if for almost $ 400 the Voigtlaender wouldn't be a better alternative


I had the Voigtländer once, 0.7m CFD on a 28mm lens was very anoying for me (even my Retina Curtagon is better at this!). This may be ok for somebody who uses it only for landscape, but then you wouldn't need a fast lens. I sold it mainly for this reason..

Unfortunatly I can't compare the Ultron with this Fujinon which I got later.. I never had them on the same camera. But I can tell you that the Zeiss Hollywood (Distagon 2/28) and Konica UC Hexanon 1.8/28 are better performers than Ultron and Fujinon (in my eyes). The Ultron is gone.. I won't part with the Zeiss, UC Hexanon and also this Fujinon which is special enough for me to be a keeper.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thomas' 'opinions' on the price and quality of CZJ lenses are purely nonsense and I think we can all see that now.

Last two 1.8/50 Pancolars I bought cost me 12.99 and 24 in ukp respectively, both are flawless, no broken aperture or stiff focus like Thomas likes to claim they always suffer from.



I bought a Flek 2.4/35 for 29ukp a couple of months ago, again, flawless mechanics.

These are ebay purchases.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thomas' 'opinions' on the price and quality of CZJ lenses are purely nonsense and I think we can all see that now.

Last two 1.8/50 Pancolars I bought cost me 12.99 and 24 in ukp respectively, both are flawless, no broken aperture or stiff focus like Thomas likes to claim they always suffer from.
I bought a Flek 2.4/35 for 29ukp a couple of months ago, again, flawless mechanics.
These are ebay purchases.


May I once again kindly ask you to refrain from attacking me just because I have other opinions than you.
You are not god and you are not the speaker of the whole community!
You have to accept that different people have different experiences and different opinions as already explained several times. It is a matter of fact that generally speaking the mechanical quality and especially the lubricants used are below western standards. No matter what you believe. You may have luck and can use those lenses for several years without troubles. However, I didn't have luck and nearly all my GDR lenses suffer from stuck apertures and other mechanical problems. Interestingly no other lenses suffer from similar problems (except some old Topcors). I have very old western German and Japanese lenses and they are all very fine and working like new since ages.
I have posted links which prove that Fleks are nowadays offered in Ebay and in Austrian shops for 300 Euro. That is no nonsense but 100% reality. If you managed to buy them cheaper it's fine for you. However, you can state here whatever you like. You always state something without any prove. That's your old tactic. It may be true or a fairy tale. I never do that.
There are many sources also on internet which prove that the low standard lubricants on one side and the worn machinery for the production on the other side led to the reported problems and the relatively high deviation of quality of those lenses.
So finally it is a matter of luck if you get a trouble free copy or a dead duck.
Everybody is free to buy and use whatever one likes for whatever price.
I will certainly refrain from buying such lenses any longer except when I can get them almost for free as the risk is too high for me to waste my money for a dead duck. I am really fed up of those problems. I do that out of my personal experience which you cannot consider to be nonsense.
You should really improve your culture of debate and accept other opinions than yours.
Thank you!


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
would you both please read the topic? Thank you


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tedat wrote:
tb_a wrote:
The question is if for almost $ 400 the Voigtlaender wouldn't be a better alternative


I had the Voigtländer once, 0.7m CFD on a 28mm lens was very anoying for me (even my Retina Curtagon is better at this!). This may be ok for somebody who uses it only for landscape, but then you wouldn't need a fast lens. I sold it mainly for this reason..

Unfortunatly I can't compare the Ultron with this Fujinon which I got later.. I never had them on the same camera. But I can tell you that the Zeiss Hollywood (Distagon 2/28 ) and Konica UC Hexanon 1.8/28 are better performers than Ultron and Fujinon (in my eyes). The Ultron is gone.. I won't part with the Zeiss, UC Hexanon and also this Fujinon which is special enough for me to be a keeper.


As we all know different folks have different tastes. Wink
It just came into my mind because I've seen the relatively high price of the Fujinon and the OP is looking for a lens for a Olympus MFT camera. That was the trigger for the Voigtlaender proposal.
I cannot say anything about the optical quality of the lenses you are mentioning here because I never had one of these lenses and frankly speaking 28mm is not my favorite focus length too. That's the reason why I have "only" 5 different ones. Wink


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tedat wrote:
would you both please read the topic? Thank you

+1
Let's stay on topic.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Guys after a lot of waiting finally got my roxsen/pixco adapter but when I mounted the lens the adapter didn't click. I think in my excitement I may have forced the lens on when the adapter was too tight, now I can't get it off. The instructions say "To remove the adapter you should un-press fixative pin and turn the adapter anticlockwise" but the pin could never be pressed, even when the adapter was off. Here's the ebay listing with some pictures: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fujica-X-old-Fuji-AX-mount-lens-to-Micro-4-3-M43-adapter-E-PL7-P5-OM-D-GX7-GF6-/181531718779?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4422347b
This is my first legacy lens and I was really enjoying it before this happened Sad I really hope you guys can help Crying or Very sad


PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a Fotodiox Pro adapter, no issues.
Are you pushing the release button towards the camera?
You say the adapter pin never clicked, is the focus distance mark centered with the top of the adapter? ie. at the 12:00 position? Or off a bit, like 11:55.
You can have a close look at the bayonet fitment by looking through the back of the adapter, there should be a tab engaging the aperture lever on the lens, a picture would help.
You may have to force the lens off the adapter, just make sure you don't put pressure on the aperture ring or focus ring, as that WILL damage the lens


PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
m_ali98 wrote:
Guys after a lot of waiting finally got my roxsen/pixco adapter but when I mounted the lens the adapter didn't click. I think in my excitement I may have forced the lens on when the adapter was too tight, now I can't get it off. The instructions say "To remove the adapter you should un-press fixative pin and turn the adapter anticlockwise" but the pin could never be pressed, even when the adapter was off. Here's the ebay listing with some pictures: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fujica-X-old-Fuji-AX-mount-lens-to-Micro-4-3-M43-adapter-E-PL7-P5-OM-D-GX7-GF6-/181531718779?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4422347b
This is my first legacy lens and I was really enjoying it before this happened Sad I really hope you guys can help Crying or Very sad


Problem solved by now?


PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try turning the adapter cw pressing the release pin down, and then ccw. The adapter may be so stiff that snagged the lens release pin not letting it withdraw back into the camera mount.


PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fuji.......??
Anyone??
Scored a 55mm 2.2 but not received as yet. hoping for a bit of fun. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It turns out I acquired tedats 28/1.9. Working beautifully on the NEX 5n.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BeardsAreBest wrote:
Fuji.......??
Anyone??
Scored a 55mm 2.2 but not received as yet. hoping for a bit of fun. Smile


That lens is basically free with an STX-1 body. Very soft at f2.2 but sharpens up when stopped down.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bille wrote:
BeardsAreBest wrote:
Fuji.......??
Anyone??
Scored a 55mm 2.2 but not received as yet. hoping for a bit of fun. Smile


Very soft at f2.2 but sharpens up when stopped down.


Hmmm maybe or maybe not.
I have seen some results from this lens ...... and I think that folks will be very surprised by the IQ - even from wide open.
I hope that BeardsAreBest will post some.
I was very impressed
OH


PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for all the advice guys and I apologise for the late reply, I've been away. As for the lens it just needed a little force and I made sure that I didn't apply it to either of the rings. The lens is usable using the adapter but the adapter is way too tight. There's plenty of information online on how to fix a loose lens adapter but very little on how to fix a tight one. I was hoping one of you guys would be able to help Smile


PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bille wrote:
It turns out I acquired tedats 28/1.9. Working beautifully on the NEX 5n.


Congratulations! How about some pictures of it mounted on the camera and some samples Razz Also if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for it? Feel free to send a private message if you don't feel comfortable sharing it here because that would be useful for me to know when I do finally decide to sell it Smile


PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
m_ali98 wrote:
Bille wrote:
It turns out I acquired tedats 28/1.9. Working beautifully on the NEX 5n.


Congratulations! How about some pictures of it mounted on the camera and some samples Razz Also if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for it? Feel free to send a private message if you don't feel comfortable sharing it here because that would be useful for me to know when I do finally decide to sell it Smile

How about some pics from it?

Hey, OH, did you receive your 28/1.9 yet? (I may have missed the post...)


PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lightshow wrote:
m_ali98 wrote:
Bille wrote:
It turns out I acquired tedats 28/1.9. Working beautifully on the NEX 5n.


Congratulations! How about some pictures of it mounted on the camera and some samples Razz Also if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for it? Feel free to send a private message if you don't feel comfortable sharing it here because that would be useful for me to know when I do finally decide to sell it Smile

How about some pics from it?

Hey, OH, did you receive your 28/1.9 yet? (I may have missed the post...)


Yes, the lens has arrived but the adapter is on a very slow boat from China and is not here as yet.
I am very keen to receive it and try this lens for myself.
OH




PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Still no adapter for my X-E1 so I took another lens - the much maligned 1.9/50 that came on the camera (AX-1), and decided to do some freelensing just for fun.
Here is one shot with quite a bit of playing around in LR
OH



PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks to be in fairly good shape, I'm sure it will impress.
I went with the Fotodiox Pro FX - E Adapter, so far, so good.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, at long last the adapter has arrived for my X-E1.
So here are some quick piccies by the X-Fujinon 1.9/28.
This is a seriously good lens folks.
OH







PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
And here is the X-Fujinon 1.9/50
This is probably the least sought after and one of the cheapest of the X-Fujinons
OH








PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
They look very good Tom,I have just bought a second hand XE-1 from ebay,ordered a few adapters from HK.I know which I shall receive first Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
mo wrote:
They look very good Tom,I have just bought a second hand XE-1 from ebay,ordered a few adapters from HK.I know which I shall receive first Laughing


Thanks Mo
You'll like the X-E1 I think.
My adapter is a Kiwi and took just over three weeks to arrive from China.
It is a very good fit with tight tolerances - quite happy with it.
Funny thing about the X-Fujinon 50's - the 1.6/50, 1.6/55 and the 1.2/50 are the ones that people chase and pay bigger $$$$ for.
There is no 1.4 X-Fujinon AFAIK - it is in the Fujinon M42 mount but also very popular.
The poor old 1.9/50 is a neglected gem IMHO and comparatively cheap.
OH


PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some more considered images from the X-Fujinon 1.9/28
OH




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