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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
which "second shop" ? _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sorry for confusing, first shop what I use mainly told me no more Foma, due they can't afford 5000 EUR investment to one film. Today I did visit another shop what is still sell film , (second shop) they said 5000 EUR is simple too much so no more Foma just Ilford and Rollei _________________ -------------------------------
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
now I understand. well, that is pity. seems that Foma is concentrating on richer western market, as I cannot imagine another reason.
however if you can spend more money at once, it is always cheaper to make a big buy and then you don't mind shipping costs from abroad. _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
now I understand. well, that is pity. seems that Foma is concentrating on richer western market, as I cannot imagine another reason.
however if you can spend more money at once, it is always cheaper to make a big buy and then you don't mind shipping costs from abroad. |
yes that is works, but pretty sad how put off many people to use film.
remind me how some company went to bakcrupcy management paid by competitors I see no point to not serve smaller orders. _________________ -------------------------------
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:51 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
Attila wrote: |
remind me how some company went to bakcrupcy management paid by competitors I see no point to not serve smaller orders. |
well, Foma is nowhere near bankrupcy and their business is much wider than just photographic materials.
also I don't think they can't serve small orders - probably they offer wholesale prices only for orders at 5000€ and higher, and that is reason why your reseller ceased selling Foma material. if he was buying stock for normal market price, he couldn't make profit, thus I can see no point in selling Foma material anymore. on the other side, Foma company probably doesn't suffer from this loss - there are many other shops which sell their material.
EDIT and my last idea - I don't think that 5000€ order is too big for a photographic shop, if they're able to sell it through one or two years. Just count your yearly spendings on film (+chemicals, papers) - I bet it would be at least 50€, maybe 100€ (or few hundred as me...). Also I believe there are at least hundreds of people shooting on film in your country and not too many shops selling film (+chemicals, papers). My point is, why is it such a problem to place a 5000€ order? Either those photographers buy their Foma film elsewhere (maybe online?), or they simply doesn't buy Foma because of their preference of other materials. Simple answer _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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hemmo
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 504 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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hemmo wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
remind me how some company went to bakcrupcy management paid by competitors I see no point to not serve smaller orders. |
well, Foma is nowhere near bankrupcy and their business is much wider than just photographic materials.
also I don't think they can't serve small orders - probably they offer wholesale prices only for orders at 5000€ and higher, and that is reason why your reseller ceased selling Foma material. if he was buying stock for normal market price, he couldn't make profit, thus I can see no point in selling Foma material anymore. on the other side, Foma company probably doesn't suffer from this loss - there are many other shops which sell their material.
EDIT and my last idea - I don't think that 5000€ order is too big for a photographic shop, if they're able to sell it through one or two years. Just count your yearly spendings on film (+chemicals, papers) - I bet it would be at least 50€, maybe 100€ (or few hundred as me...). Also I believe there are at least hundreds of people shooting on film in your country and not too many shops selling film (+chemicals, papers). My point is, why is it such a problem to place a 5000€ order? Either those photographers buy their Foma film elsewhere (maybe online?), or they simply doesn't buy Foma because of their preference of other materials. Simple answer |
I've used Foma films now from december 2012 (about 6 months now) and quick look to my account tells that I've already spend 405EUR to those my orders so I think that 5000EUR ordering really isn't very big deal (or risk) for any dealer.
I've been talking with one exellent local shop Telefoto http://www.telefoto.fi/ for taking Foma products also to their shop. Few days ago I got email from them saying that they have already been in contact to Foma, but I don't know yet how their negotiations have progressed. _________________ 500px l ¿ .. ? l Jalbum |
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
another foma support ...
_________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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hemmo
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 504 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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hemmo wrote:
Great news! New webshop has just opened at Finland and there's also Foma products.
http://kauppa.bittifoto.com/ (only in finnish )
I've already done my first Foma film order from there. _________________ 500px l ¿ .. ? l Jalbum |
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Eugen Mezei
Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 266
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
I just saw it, at my local shop Foma cost the same as Ilford. Looking at www.f64.ro, where most local shops in Romania get their photographic gear, I guess this is now true for the entire country. |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Just a quick bit of support. I tried Variant III velvet last fall and I think it's the best paper I've ever used. I am absolutely enamored with the tones and appearance. It worked very well with the high-grain Kodak 5222 Double-X and neutralized the film's graininess nicely. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
still supporting...
_________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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PWhite214
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 230 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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PWhite214 wrote:
If Arista brand is Foma, then I am supporting them through Freestyle. I find it interesting that Arista sells for less than Foma at Freestyle. I don't know if the two films are the same emulsion.
Maybe I will order 5 rolls ISO 400 of each to see if I can see any difference. If anyone has done a similar comparison, I would appreciate some feedback. I probably would not get around to doing that until January at the earliest.
I also wonder if Ultrafine film is Foma too.
I need to get out for more shooting.
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Phil,
Rumor is that Ultra Fine is also Foma. It certainly has the same characteristics, but Ultra Fine has never publicly confirmed their film source. UF is even cheaper than Arista. My guess is that the Foma which misses some element of specification but is still fine for use is rebranded, but that's conjecture on my part. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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PWhite214
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 230 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:53 am Post subject: |
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PWhite214 wrote:
Right now, B&W in stock here at my house I have Kodak, Ilford, Ultrafine and Arista. I am planning to cut the list down to one film, probably Arista. I have not decided yet.
Thanks for the info.
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redguy22
Joined: 23 Feb 2015 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: |
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redguy22 wrote:
Did a small support action too. Bought a role of iso 200 at the Berlin mauerpark. Some dude had alot of used manual stuff and also some fomapan rolls. Awesome nice guy. First time fomapan for me. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5043 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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kansalliskala wrote:
Old topic but what is situation now 2021? _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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