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Lazzaros
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Fisheye - What do you recomend? |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I have a friend who wants to buy one Fisheye for his Canon.
Could you please tell me which one could be a good purchase?
I saw some photos taken for the Zenitar 16mm (from one user I don´t remember) and I liked them very much.
I saw on ebay and it comes from Russia :S I'd pay custom fees and I don't want to.
Please give me more options and if you know some fair prices.
Many thanks |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Canon SLR or crop DSLR?
The Zenitar 2.8/16 is a great lens, but it loses a lot from the fisheye effect on a crop DSLR.
The Peleng 3.5/8 still is a real fisheye on a crop DSLR.
Depends on what he wants... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16628 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
You won't get much better than that considering its price (even with taxes)!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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tanheis
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Fisheye - What do you recomend? |
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tanheis wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
I have a friend who wants to buy one Fisheye for his Canon.
Could you please tell me which one could be a good purchase?
I saw some photos taken for the Zenitar 16mm (from one user I don´t remember) and I liked them very much.
I saw on ebay and it comes from Russia :S I'd pay custom fees and I don't want to.
Please give me more options and if you know some fair prices.
Many thanks |
I have one Zenitar which also came with EOS mount... not fixed...
Just m42 to EOS adapter without chip..
In Ebay it looks like going about 120€
80€ +postage and it's yours... _________________ EOS 5D mk II
Lenses: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8, Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI-S & non-AI ones,Olympus OM Zuiko 28/2,Pentacon 50 1.8,Industar-50 50mm 3.5(silver & black) Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE Distagon, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Nikon 200/2 ED-IF AI-S,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror, Zenit Photosniper + Tair-3, Canon FD 800 5.6L - EOS converted
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Canon EOS M
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Olympus PEN-F 42mm f/1.2 |
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
It is for Canon 40D.
Even with crop situation Zenitar could be a good option. |
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Fisheye - What do you recomend? |
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Lazzaros wrote:
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I have one Zenitar which also came with EOS mount... not fixed...
Just m42 to EOS adapter without chip..
In Ebay it looks like going about 120€
80€ +postage and it's yours... |
I'll talk with my friend about it
Many thanks |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Zenitar! Need a bit luck Orio's copy for example a dog, I saw pictures from Lahnet that is superb. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Hope he will has lucky. |
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tanheis
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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tanheis wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Zenitar! Need a bit luck Orio's copy for example a dog, I saw pictures from Lahnet that is superb. |
What was wrong with Orios copy? _________________ EOS 5D mk II
Lenses: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8, Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI-S & non-AI ones,Olympus OM Zuiko 28/2,Pentacon 50 1.8,Industar-50 50mm 3.5(silver & black) Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE Distagon, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Nikon 200/2 ED-IF AI-S,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror, Zenit Photosniper + Tair-3, Canon FD 800 5.6L - EOS converted
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Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Olympus PEN-F 42mm f/1.2 |
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tanheis
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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tanheis wrote:
Here are some shots with the lens.
These are f/8
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/wider-lenses/3_G.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/wider-lenses/1_G.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/wider-lenses/2_G.jpg
These maybe f/5.6
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/Vehicles/AudiR8front.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/Vehicles/AudiR8rear.jpg
These don't remember but I think 8 or something
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/Tuuloksen-kivikirkko/TuuloksenKeskiaika6.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/Hauhon-kivikirkko/HauhonKeskiaika1.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/toinen-vierailu/wide.jpg
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/Bromarv/1_G.jpg
Hope this shows something about the lens...
I think I have some full size photos on some backup hd's too and of course could take tomorrow and also post some images of the lens..
It has differend color filters too which can be screwed to the bottom... _________________ EOS 5D mk II
Lenses: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8, Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI-S & non-AI ones,Olympus OM Zuiko 28/2,Pentacon 50 1.8,Industar-50 50mm 3.5(silver & black) Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE Distagon, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Nikon 200/2 ED-IF AI-S,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror, Zenit Photosniper + Tair-3, Canon FD 800 5.6L - EOS converted
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Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Olympus PEN-F 42mm f/1.2 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is definitely a good one! If you not like it I love to buy it too. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tanheis
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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tanheis wrote:
I'm planning 5D and with that 28mm lens is about the same as 16mm on
1.6x and still I have not been using it for a while because I don't
need so much very wide lens...
full frame also has shorter DOF and that's also positive and negative
If needed more DOF then negative... If needed less and more blur to the
backround with same aperture then positive
My wife may start shooting too so then we would have 2 bodies _________________ EOS 5D mk II
Lenses: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8, Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI-S & non-AI ones,Olympus OM Zuiko 28/2,Pentacon 50 1.8,Industar-50 50mm 3.5(silver & black) Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE Distagon, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Nikon 200/2 ED-IF AI-S,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror, Zenit Photosniper + Tair-3, Canon FD 800 5.6L - EOS converted
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Canon EOS M
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Olympus PEN-F 42mm f/1.2 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
tanheis wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Zenitar! Need a bit luck Orio's copy for example a dog, I saw pictures from Lahnet that is superb. |
What was wrong with Orios copy? |
It was soft. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Nice one.
Attila go for it. My friend doesn't have enough money right now.
Many thanks for your help. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think I will sell it after test, so if somebody want to take it I yield him. If not Tanheis consider as sold. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Rob Leslie
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 1103 Location: UK Swindon
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
I love my Zenitar.
On 1.5 crop (Pentax) DSLR it loses a lot and a little more on a Canon but I still use it more often than my Sigma 10-20mm.
I have been using the Zenitar on my old Pentax ME Super and the results on 35mm are fantastic.
I also like the Peleng but admit it is limited in its use.
I am now thinking of selling the Peleng and going for the Pentax (Tokina) fisheye zoom. Results I have seen from the lens are pretty good and it may even replace my Zenitar and Peleng?
OK it is AF but AF focus is useless on these wide lenses. (I never have my Sigma 10-20mm on AF) _________________ Pentax K10D & K100D. Many Tamron Adaptall SP lenses, Fujinon f4.5 400mm. A loved Lens Baby 2, Lubitel triplet +++ and many film cameras. Mainly a Digital user inc G5, GR2
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I agree, a good copy of Zenitar produce fantastic result. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Bob
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Wentzville, Mo.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Bob wrote:
Here are a few from the Zenitar
http://ka0tvo.smugmug.com/gallery/1520548_Ya5hf/1/73062327_qUuU5
http://ka0tvo.smugmug.com/photos/345334251_UM9wb-M.jpg
And the Peleng
http://ka0tvo.smugmug.com/gallery/1601592_HvU3F/1/77764972_ih9vB
both are very _________________ Bob
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:05 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
tanheis check PM _________________ Moderator |
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tanheis
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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tanheis wrote:
Pictures of the lens
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/lenses/1_G.jpg
Bigger
http://taneli.homelinux.net/albums/lenses/2_G.jpg
Bigger
Not sold yet... _________________ EOS 5D mk II
Lenses: Zeiss Distagon T* 15/2.8, Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI-S & non-AI ones,Olympus OM Zuiko 28/2,Pentacon 50 1.8,Industar-50 50mm 3.5(silver & black) Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE Distagon, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Nikon 200/2 ED-IF AI-S,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror, Zenit Photosniper + Tair-3, Canon FD 800 5.6L - EOS converted
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Canon EOS M
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Olympus PEN-F 42mm f/1.2 |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
I'm really impressed with the Zenitar on my D200 and can't wait to try it on the D700. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Richard_D wrote: |
I'm really impressed with the Zenitar on my D200 and can't wait to try it on the D700. |
Wow! That's a thought! Would love to see the results! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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lahnet
Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 1164 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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lahnet wrote:
My Zenitar
3 different images just to show
I love it _________________ Henrik
Lahnet-Foto
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Mazero
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Västmanland, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mazero wrote:
I can recommend the Sigma 8mm f/4 with MF. I bought mine for a little less than €160 with shipping, practically new optics and in great shape. But since I've never really seen it anywhere else, I can't really say if it's cheap or not.
This lens is actually pretty sharp, even at wide open. I was surprised by this, since I thought fisheyes would be quite unsharp. |
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Poolhall
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Thoroughly recommend my Zenitar though I tend to use it more as a very wide angle on my Pentax. Does look very good on 35mm Film as well, very sharp and excellent for going in close. |
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