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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a macro bellow. Smile


PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppen wrote:
On a macro bellow. Smile


A PK macro bellow? Ok,

Best,

Renato


PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup! A AICO PK slide duplicator to be exact.



I'm going to pick it up Sunday morning. Needs some stripping down but it looks like it got all the parts I need. Smile



PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



The lens is has a red dot just above F11 and i think that's where it sharpest. The lens is super soft at f4.5. It's hard work focusing and using this set up. Smile

I might have to build a costom mount to fit the camera straight on the bellow.

F4.5


F5.6


F8


F11



F11


100% crop 1


100% crop 2


PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cranked up



PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my Ektar 127 on the Bellows. Nikon makes a BR-2 reversing ring that often works perfect for these lenses. I can't get much shorter than 105 mm with my bellows and not lose infinity focus. The Ektar is quite nice and does not suffer from the weak contrast. I also have a Wollensak 127 Raptar and a few more old lenses.



Good luck finding your perfect lens.
Pete


PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info! How does the mount on the bellow work on your set up. Can you rotate the camera after attaching it?

I just put together this dirty rig to do a comparison. Rodagon 150mm 5.6 (1970's?)

Tessar 105 @f5.6


Rodagon 150 @f8


Tessar 105 @f8


Rodagon 150 @f8


PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crops of images above.









PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tessar image jazzed up. (sharpens, contrast, shadows)





PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tessar 105mm @f8


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Rodagon 150mm @f8


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the Tessar is a bit softer than the Rodagon but then it is a 'portrait lens'

Many people have told me that the PB-4 bellows will not clear a digital camera but it has a swivel to go from horizontal to vertical so I move it to vertical when I mount the camera then just swivel it horizontal. Yes I can swivel vertical/horizontal when it is mounted. You can probably use a small extension ring to get your bellows away from the camera body but that may limit the minimum focal length you can use.

This is from the Wollensak Raptar 127 because the Ektar has a permanent home on my Speed Graphic.

I don't remember the PP but I usually apply Alien Skin film emulation.
Pete


PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!


PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First set back. As suspected this set up does not focus to in portrait distance with a 80mm lens (3 1/2"). Its just a regular macro setup.







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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the bummer yesterday today's mystery 150mm lens delivers.

















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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a test of the framing shot in moon light mixed with a row of 60w garden light posts at iso 6400 and 1/20.



The biggest reflexsion in the eye is the moon. Smile



PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 400% paint crop from the jpeg straight from the camera taken whit no lens hood. The blur is down to 2-3 pixels. The light is a row of LED lights equivalent to maybe 15W. Hopefully with a lens hood and shot i raw and proper light this could be reduced down to 1-2 pixels.



The lens



PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Storm today during test shots. Managed to get blur down to 2-3 with lens hood and and raw files. I still have feeling there is a tad more to be squeezed out. Color an contrast seems good thou.



Crop 100%





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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you guys think? Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pew. Today I finaly god down to 1-2 pixels sharpens. Thats on par with the best test images from top of the line FF lenses I've seen. Conditions where 100% clouded winter sky facing the position of the covered sun. The mystery lens is a technical Rodenstock 1:4.5 ca 150mm

200% crops



PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did a benchmark with some competing lenses on https://pixelpeeper.com/.

I looked for natural light portraits in the first 20 pages for each lens. The lenses were Canon 100mm f2.8 L macro, 135mm f2.0, 180mm f3.5 macro and Carl Zeiss 100mm f2.0.

The best one I found was this https://www.flickr.com/photos/7142211@N07/8395684883/sizes/o/ taken with the 135mm f2.0 on a 5d II

200% crop from my latest build as a comparison. The images got a similar composition and framing.



I know this is highly subjective and lacking scientific rigor but I'm surprised to see how well my build stands up against the competition.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With great resolution comes great responsibility Laughing

But are any of these really useful for portrait work? I assume you have a studio set where you can set the focus carefully and direct the model within the frame?